[14:02] Turn Chat is starting now [14:03] * Falcon04 is now known as CivGeneral [14:03] Beginning pre-turn [14:03] hmmm, interesting [14:03] * F-22 is now known as Falcon02 [14:03] * CivGeneral is now known as Falcon04 [14:03] FA: Politely ask foreign troops to depart [14:03] @DM - I like this, I just hate forcing Mayors like RegentMan to manage what will never be anything than a worker factory. [14:04] RF: could you verify if the Greeks (or to whomever the frigat near Cælian belongs to) have sanitation? I think I saw that in the saveŠ [14:04] As far as the other fields (Production, Science, Commerce, Culture) those can all be interesting. [14:04] Sure Fier [14:04] Yes, they do. [14:05] Ahh, I knew we could trade it. [14:05] testing if I can type a æ [14:05] Germany is leave or war, per instructions we don't force the issue [14:05] * Falcon04 is now known as CivGeneral [14:06] Persian and Greece are leaving [14:06] FA: Done [14:06] All queues reset [14:06] Military is here [14:06] Allocating labor [14:07] German longbow->Annoyed+They outnumber us= 90% chance that they would have declared war, with a single longbowŠ [14:08] * naervod is now known as naervod_away [14:09] Labor done. Starting rush buys [14:09] don't force him out yet [14:09] add to that a lvl 5 agressivity [14:11] Rush buys complete. [14:11] Science ratio set to 50% [14:11] Science queue is RP, Sanitation, Corporation [14:11] how much more tim to Replacable Parts? [14:12] 8 turns to RP [14:12] Domestic done [14:12] Science done [14:12] Military: Upgrade 6 spearchuckers [14:12] * Octavian_X has joined #demogame [14:12] * Mafioso sets mode: +o Octavian_X [14:12] * Falcon02 sets mode: +v Octavian_X [14:12] Hi oct [14:13] Hello [14:13] hehe, forgot there was a TC today. 1,8;) 2,1 [14:13] lol [14:13] * ShangMan has joined #demogame [14:13] * Falcon02 sets mode: +v ShangMan [14:14] Moving troops around [14:14] * ShangMan has left #demogame [14:17] Troop movement done. Work continuing on TFRR [14:18] nice map des :) [14:18] thank you [14:19] which one? [14:19] the one in the new TC post [14:19] how do you make them squares so.. squarelike [14:19] oh, that is also in the Quirnial Thread now, I'm going to use that to communicate worker requests [14:20] Yes, cool map [14:20] I zoom in real close and use a line tool over the Civ3 grid, then I expand and feather it [14:20] but I can do it pretty quickly, I think it only took 20 minutes to draw after I figured out everyone's instructions [14:21] I just hope it clearly communictes what is desired. [14:21] I'm going to update it to show what part of the RR is complete and what part hasn't been built. [14:22] Worker movement is done [14:24] Going through all cities to check for rioting [14:25] * Octavian_X is now known as Octavian_C [14:25] Preturn complete. Saving game and uploading to server [14:25] * CivGeneral is now known as Octavian_pi_3 [14:26] * Octavian_pi_3 is now known as Paalikles_All_your_base_are_be [14:26] ..and mailing to d'yer mak'er [14:26] it worked! :9 [14:26] * Paalikles_All_your_base_are_be is now known as CivGeneral [14:26] * Octavian_C has quit IRC (Quit: renconnecting ) [14:29] DM - it's going through my virus checker right not. [14:29] *now [14:29] File uploaded to server. Link: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/Caesar_of_the_Romans,_1495_AD1.zip [14:29] Pressing enter in 5 ... [14:29] 4 ... [14:30] 3 ... [14:30] 2 ... [14:30] 1 ... [14:30] Pressing Enter [14:30] * Octavian_X has joined #demogame [14:30] * Mafioso sets mode: +o Octavian_X [14:30] * Falcon02 sets mode: +v Octavian_X [14:30] Woohoo! German longbow moved OUT of our turf! [14:31] yay! [14:31] Military rep - should I move our cav troops to continue blocking? [14:31] Did you realy tought that he would atack the mighty Cælian Stronghold of Asyut? [14:32] I'm sure his shaft was quivering in fear [14:32] [14:32] Thebes: Library -> Granary [14:33] Asyut cultural borders expanded [14:33] Dinas Emrys: Harbor -> Worker [14:33] Palatine: Ironclad -> Worker [14:34] Aqualonde: Marketplace -> Library [14:34] Go Home Xerxes: Marketplace -> Courthouse [14:34] North Shore: Worker -> Worker [14:35] Babs Landing: Worker -> Worker [14:35] Wandering GH: Worker -> Worker [14:35] Shaitan: Granary -> Worker [14:36] Cold Harbor: Library -> Worker [14:36] Cold Harbor cultural borders expand! [14:36] Malvern: Granary -> Worker [14:36] Malvern cultural borders expand! [14:37] Yo, CG! [14:37] yes [14:37] Sorry [14:37] My pager is (CG) if you need me [14:37] Art thou the military rep here? [14:37] yes [14:38] The Cavalry should continue the Blockade [14:38] Might I have thine permission to use thy cavalry to remind the German cur of our borders? [14:38] Ahh, thanks. [14:38] Raven - If you need me next time use my pager (CG) [14:38] since I have to finish my SG [14:38] * CivGeneral is now known as CG_TDG_SG [14:39] Thanks! [14:39] Checking for workers that can be rushed (max 36g, 1 shield cities only) [14:41] Moving upgraded Musketmen to new locations [14:46] Troop movement done [14:46] Worker movement done [14:46] 1 worker rushed per Domestic instructions [14:46] Checking for unhappiness [14:47] We're happy. Persia does NOT have Scientific Method. [14:47] End turn 1, 1500 [14:47] Ratio: 5/5/0 [14:48] * Esquiline has joined #demogame [14:48] Treasury: 1677, +228 per turn [14:48] * Falcon02 sets mode: +v Esquiline [14:48] Researching RP, 7 turns to go [14:48] Pressing enter in 3 ... [14:48] i'm leaving, have a nice remainder of TC [14:48] * fiercanadien has quit IRC (Quit: ) [14:48] hi all [14:48] * Esquiline is now known as RikMeleet [14:48] hey [14:48] * RikMeleet has left #demogame [14:48] * RikMeleet has joined #demogame [14:48] * Mafioso sets mode: +o RikMeleet [14:48] * Falcon02 sets mode: +v RikMeleet [14:48] 2 ... [14:49] See ya Fier [14:49] 1 ... [14:49] Pressing enter [14:49] Nur Gisnod: Rax -> Colosseum [14:50] Bacon: Temple -> Market [14:50] Coneland: Worker -> worker [14:50] Chieftess: Rax -> Bank [14:51] Dom: Rush Factory in Gorina. Current prod: 35, corruption 2 [14:52] Rushing workers [14:52] 5 workers rushed [14:53] Persia still does not have Scientific Method [14:53] Working on the railroad ... [14:55] Got to go all. Have fun! [14:56] * RegentMan has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving ) [14:56] * conehead234 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving ) [14:57] Has anything important happened ? [14:58] Nothing major. The German LBow ran away, we're blockading [14:58] All worker tasks done [14:58] End turn 2 (1505) [14:58] Ration 5/5/0 Replacement Parts in 6 turns [14:59] Treasury: 1277, +225gpt [14:59] Pressing enter in 3 ... [14:59] 2 ... [14:59] 1 ... [14:59] Nothing major IBT [15:00] * Octavian_X is now known as DoughnutStrider [15:00] Gorina: Factory -> Universal Suffrage [15:00] Dinas Emrys: Worker -> Worker [15:01] Ingole: Univesity -> Cathedral [15:01] Sycorax: Aqueduct -> Market [15:01] * BlueStrider has joined #demogame [15:01] * Mafioso sets mode: +v BlueStrider [15:02] Babs L: Worker -> Worker [15:02] Wandering GH: Woeker -> Worker [15:02] Cold Harbor: Worker -> Worker [15:02] Malvern: Worker -> Worker [15:03] Starting turn 3, 1510 AD [15:03] All cities in Esquiline and Capitaline are connected to the Railroad! [15:03] * DoughnutStrider is now known as Octavian_X [15:03] Ravens: How many turns for Gorina to build The US ? [15:05] * ZeroForce has quit IRC (Quit: ) [15:05] * ZeroForce has joined #demogame [15:05] * Mafioso sets mode: +v ZeroForce [15:05] It's gonna be a tough race for us. Gorina will take 17 turns! (grin) [15:06] Tyvek is 20 turns from the Dam [15:06] * ZeroForce has quit IRC (Read/Dead Error: Input/output error ) [15:07] * ZeroForce has joined #demogame [15:07] * Mafioso sets mode: +v ZeroForce [15:07] All movement done. [15:07] Checking for workers to rush [15:08] Checking for troops in our territory [15:08] Checking for happiness [15:09] End of turn 3 (1510) [15:09] Ratio 5/5/0 Replacement Parts in 5 turns [15:10] Treasury: 1502, +217gpt [15:10] Persia does not have Scientific Method [15:10] Pressing enter in 3 ... [15:10] 2 ... [15:10] 1 ... [15:11] The English would like to swap World Maps. Any [15:11] Any preference? [15:12] hmm [15:12] trade the maps (imprpves relations) [15:12] What would they give us? [15:12] * CG_TDG_SG is now known as CivGeneral [15:12] Can we get any Gold from them? [15:13] They will give us 30 gold to swap [15:13] Is that all of there gold? [15:13] Most of it, but not all [15:13] trade it. [15:14] sounds good [15:14] Cool [15:14] Elephantine: University -> Musketman [15:14] Bootia: Courthouse -> Rax [15:15] DePaulo: Harbor -> Library [15:15] * conehead has joined #demogame [15:15] * CivGeneral sets mode: +v conehead [15:15] * CivGeneral is now known as Mara_Jade [15:15] PDX III: Aqueduct -> Rax [15:15] hey [15:15] Shaitan: Worker -> worker [15:16] hi cone [15:16] did i miss anything [15:16] not really [15:17] Working on the railroad ... [15:18] No Sinnin [15:18] or singing [15:19] * RikMeleet whistkes [15:19] * Mara_Jade watches as Rik poos [15:19] * conehead gets the lysol [15:21] All movement done [15:21] Checking for worker rushes [15:21] 1 worker rushed [15:21] Holy @#$@#$@% [15:22] Persia picked up Corporation AND RP last turn! [15:22] They STILL don't have Sanitation though [15:22] o &#$% [15:22] * Mara_Jade is now known as CivGeneral [15:22] Those techs are valuable in trading later on (20 turns or so) [15:23] * RikMeleet has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving ) [15:23] We should have $&#^@( those #!*$&#@ in the $&#^@&$ !*#% when SAAM suggested it. [15:23] Yup. Right now though, Sci. Meth. + 100 gold gets us RP, Corp and Sanitation [15:23] go for it [15:24] Correction, Persia still doesn't have Sci Meth, but has Sanitation [15:24] o [15:24] i think we should go for the trade [15:24] I'm still very, very leery about a trade like that. [15:25] where the the Ministry Of Trade stand on this? [15:25] Assuming their science is close to ours, they could research AT and E in the time it takes for us to complete US [15:25] Meaning the cascade would be on, and we'd be in a really, REALLY tight wonder race [15:26] I'm going to keep playing the turn - keep the discussion going [15:27] What does former Trade Leader Octavian X think about this? [15:27] if we arn't going to be warring much US won't be that important [15:27] * RikMeleet has joined #demogame [15:27] * Mafioso sets mode: +o RikMeleet [15:27] * CivGeneral sets mode: +v RikMeleet [15:29] * Deshelbr is now known as Deshelbr_Cooking [15:31] * naervod_away is now known as naervod [15:31] back [15:32] For right now, I'm going to pass on the trade - too much concern about wonders [15:34] End turn 4 (1515) [15:34] Ratio: 5/5/0, Replacement Parts in 3 turns [15:34] Treasury 1717, +219 gpt [15:34] Pressing enter in 3 ... [15:34] 2 ... [15:34] 1 ... [15:35] * Dyer_Maker is now known as dr [15:35] Palatine: Worker -> worker [15:35] * dr is now known as Dyer_Maker [15:35] Pers. Landing: Worker -> worker [15:35] Norht Shore: worker -> worker [15:36] Coneland: Worker -> worker [15:37] Working on the rails [15:38] * RikMeleet whistles the railroad sogn [15:38] * naervod is now known as naervod_lunchtime [15:38] Whew - hard work! [15:38] Most cities are now hooked up to the rail network [15:39] Quirnial is the only province left, and it's getting close! A few more turns, and the backbone will be complete [15:39] Checking for workers to rush [15:40] sweet [15:40] is Cælian aready hooked up to the RR? [15:40] Checking for unhappiness [15:41] Deshelbr: Yes, Cæ is hooked up except for Asyut (done next turn!) [15:41] No riots spotted [15:42] Persia still does not have Scie. Method [15:42] * OctavianX has joined #demogame [15:42] * CivGeneral_Leaving_CFC sets mode: +v OctavianX [15:42] How long before US and HD ? [15:42] End turn 5 (1520) [15:42] upload save [15:42] Ratio: 5/5/0, RP in 2 turns [15:42] Treasury: 1808, +215gpt [15:42] * Octavian_X has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 360 seconds ) [15:43] RM: HD in 18, US in 15 [15:43] Save will be uploaded. [15:43] If you need the save e-mailed, please let me know! [15:43] * OctavianX is now known as Octavian_X [15:43] please mail one to me [15:44] Email me [15:44] * Mafioso sets mode: +o Octavian_X [15:45] at straight_a_pat@yahoo.com [15:45] On the way! [15:45] plz [15:45] marcus_uppstrom@hotmail.com [15:45] Upload confirmed. Link: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/Caesar_of_the_Romans,_1520_AD.zip [15:46] Pressing enter in 5 ... [15:46] thanks [15:47] 4 ... [15:47] ty [15:47] 3 ... [15:47] 2 ... [15:47] 1 .... [15:47] wait please [15:48] Okay [15:49] You can send Palatine's Ironclad patrolling the coast if you desire. [15:49] Yup [15:51] Anything else RM? [15:52] * Dyer_Maker is now known as Dyer_Maker_eating_supper [15:52] Raven: go ahead [15:53] Gotcha. Nice avatar CG! [15:53] can you move the coneland laborer on the hill to the irgated grass land [15:53] Sure. [15:53] thx [15:54] Thebes: Granary -> Worker [15:54] Penguin: Factory build [15:54] Babs L: Worker -> Worker [15:54] WGH: Worker -> Worker [15:54] cold Harbor: worker -> worker [15:55] Malvern: worker -> worker [15:56] do you know we can trade germany Sciencetific Method for RP, San, Corp [15:58] conehead: later... [15:58] Announcement! With the exception of Grozny, All Fanatica cities are connected to the TFRR! [15:58] k [15:59] Worker movement done [15:59] * conehead goes get the beer for the party [15:59] Conehead laborer moved [15:59] Checking for worker rushes [15:59] k [16:00] Checking for unhappiness [16:00] Ingole. ready to riot, entertainer hired [16:02] Persia STILL does not have Sci. Method [16:02] Checking for foreign troops [16:03] Everything done! [16:03] End turn 6 (1525 AD) [16:03] Ratio: 5/5/0, RP in 1 turn [16:03] Ratio adjusted to 30% to maximize revenue [16:03] Treasury: 2023, +450gpt [16:04] Pressing enter in 3 ... [16:04] 2 ... [16:04] 1 ... [16:04] Pressing enter now [16:05] Alert: We have lost our supply of Ivory [16:05] * Noldodan has joined #demogame [16:05] * Falcon02 sets mode: +v Noldodan [16:05] 'lo all [16:05] Hi Noldodan! [16:05] We were swapping Ivory for Dyes [16:05] hey [16:05] What does it cost to redo the deal ? [16:06] what turn is it? [16:06] RM: Dyes + 275 gold [16:06] Noldy: turn 7 [16:07] Raven: trade is with who ? can we trade some outdated tech ort gpt ? [16:07] alrighty then [16:07] do we have any rubber [16:07] Trade would be with Germany. I'm going to hold off for now, and see what other countries might have [16:08] rsiky (disorder) [16:08] Or do you think I ought to renew? [16:09] How much for Dyes + gpt ? [16:09] hang on [16:12] 15 gpt minimum [16:12] Gyes + 15pgt is fine by me. [16:12] *Dyes [16:12] Cool - doing the trade then [16:13] We have Replaceable Parts! [16:13] YAY! [16:13] Thebes: Worker -> Worker [16:13] Lake A: Univ ->Bank [16:13] any rubber [16:13] hang on a sec [16:13] Bootia: Rax -> Worker [16:14] Announcement: We have 2 sources of rubber! [16:14] aya [16:14] yay [16:14] Near Penguin and near Giza! [16:14] yay [16:14] cool [16:14] I could not see any other sources for us. [16:16] can we trade any sources for tech [16:17] * Peri has joined #demogame [16:17] * Mafioso sets mode: +o Peri [16:17] * Falcon02 sets mode: +v Peri [16:17] hi just got here [16:17] sorry rik [16:17] All worker tasks done [16:18] NP Peri [16:18] what turn are we on/ [16:18] 29 [16:18] :P [16:18] * conehead has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving ) [16:19] what turn are really on? [16:19] Persia still does not have Sci. Method [16:19] Peri: turn 7 [16:19] ty [16:20] We can trade RP for Gems (Russia) or Furs (Japan) and other stuff [16:20] sounds ok [16:20] Note that Persia and Germany have RP already [16:20] i assume ger did not declare war on us [16:21] Peri: Correct [16:21] thats a relief [16:21] RM - feel like exploring trades further? [16:22] We may be able to get both Sanitation and Nationalism from the trades [16:22] *drools* [16:23] * Ravensfire hands Noldodan a hanky [16:24] Scratch that. The best we can get is a luxury, 40 gold, wm and Sanitation [16:24] Raven: what trades ? [16:24] shucks [16:24] Russia and China both have a luxury, and don't have RP [16:24] I am in principle for trades, but not for Sci Meth or AT or E. [16:25] Russia will give us Gems, Sanitation, WM and 48g for RP [16:25] Germany and Persia already have RP, we don't lose anything for doing it. [16:26] I'm fine with trading RP around. But don't even think about trading Sci Meth, AT and E. [16:26] I agree. Anyone else have a comment on this trade? [16:27] im with rm [16:27] Already, trade is going though. RP for Gems, Sanitation, WM and 48g from Russia [16:28] china will give us Furs and 32 gold for RP - should we pass on this one? [16:28] pass [16:28] go ahead. [16:28] passing then [16:29] Checking for workers to rush [16:29] Setting science ration to 40% per Domestic [16:30] End turn 7 (1530) [16:30] Ratio: 6/4/0, Corporation in 6 turns [16:30] Treasury: 2235, +333 per turn [16:30] * Octavian_X has quit IRC (Quit: ) [16:31] Confirmed Persia still does not have Sci. Method [16:31] * conehead has joined #demogame [16:31] * Falcon02 sets mode: +v conehead [16:31] any chance of any more upgrades? [16:31] Pressing enter in 3 ... [16:31] Domestic only authorized the 6 spearchuckers [16:31] ok ill put in for some more then. :) [16:32] Upgrading to infantry is 140 gold now [16:32] But, you've got a cav. stopper as a defender now [16:32] Pressing enter in 2 ... [16:32] 1 ... [16:32] Pressing Enter! [16:32] that is far too much [16:33] prob should go to rifle first when we get natinalism [16:33] Peri: Can't - infantry superceeds rifle as long as rubber is available [16:33] Thebes: Worker -> Cathedral [16:33] * RikMeleet is Domestic Deputy (But then, name a dep of which I'm not deputy) [16:33] Nafstac: Courthouse -> Library [16:34] Bootia: Worker ->Worker [16:34] Palatine: Worker -> Worker [16:34] Coneland Worker ->worker [16:34] S. Bootia: Market -> Harbor [16:34] Shaitan: Worker -> Worker [16:35] Moving workers [16:36] is there a turn 5 save at all? [16:37] yes [16:38] Workers done [16:38] Checking for worker rushes [16:39] Checking for foreign troops [16:39] Checking for unhappiness [16:39] Turn 5 Save = http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/Caesar_of_the_Romans,_1520_AD.zip [16:40] ty [16:40] End of turn 8 (1535) [16:40] Ratio: 6/4/0 [16:41] Treasury: 2441, +329 [16:41] Researching Corporation, 5 turns [16:41] Persia STILL does not have Scientific Method [16:41] Pressing enter in 3 ... [16:42] 2 ... [16:42] 1 ... [16:42] Pressing Enter NOW! [16:42] Crabengwë! [16:43] Memphis: Factory -> Infantry [16:43] Heliopolis: Cathedral -> Market [16:43]