Session Start: Mon Dec 30 21:10:14 2002 Session Ident: #demogame [21:10] * Logging #demogame to 'C:\My Documents\#demogame.Webmaster.log' [21:10] airports [21:10] TURN CHAT BEGINNING [21:10] :D [21:10] what IS PDX? [21:10] 3:4D [21:10] Portland (Oregon) Airport [21:10] I think [21:10] loading up the TC instruction thread... [21:11] :) [21:11] ah k [21:11] CT is correct [21:11] *** Guest81333 (client@=ZGfd-pnrxjgw-qegf4-i8q-245.wmnsmd.adelphia.net) has joined #demogame [21:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Guest81333 [21:11] 3А Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3А [21:12] *** Guest81333 is now known as Falcon02_clone [21:12] 3:4) [21:12] :) [21:12] it's me really [21:12] I hate Adelphia [21:12] I want my T-1 back!!!! [21:12] Ack Faclon02 has a clone ;) [21:12] Attack of the clones? [21:12] 3 *** 4[CloneScanning] 3 #demogame [21:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Falcon02_clone [21:13] *** Falcon02 is now known as Guest60635 [21:13] *** 4[CloneScan]3 Found: *!*@=sVsm-trxdiin-cosc0-l5j-418.wmnsmd.adelphia.net : 4(3 Falcon02, Falcon02_clone 4) [21:13] 12А I got the Powwa stick! 12А [21:13] 3 *** 4[CloneScan]3 End of Scan. [21:13] ? [21:13] I don't know [21:13] *** Guest60635 (client@=ZGfd-pnrxjgw-qegf4-i8q-245.wmnsmd.adelphia.net) Quit (Connection Closed) [21:13] I did a recover with Falcon02 [21:13] Now carrying out Shouri Province instructions [21:13] What province is that? [21:13] *** Falcon02_clone is now known as Falcon02 [21:13] Try "/nick Falcon02" [21:14] there we go [21:14] hey Bill [21:14] I did it said it was already in use [21:14] "Sugar 'n' Spice" [21:14] ok [21:17] The Cartographic Office would like to remind the Designated Player that that is not the official name of that province... [21:17] Hi Cyc! [21:17] I get the feeling my instructions aren't detailed enough but I don't have anything more to say [21:17] BTW, what the heck kind of name is "Sugar n' Spice" [21:17] lol [21:17] for a province? [21:17] a very bad one [21:17] more over I'm gonna be leaving soon and I'm not sure if I'll be back in time for the begaining of the t/c [21:17] we are going to get our butts kicked over that one I'd wager... [21:17] So, who named it? [21:17] but at some odd middle-of-the-night hour.... [21:17] Shouri [21:17] it's a province of girls? [21:17] that's my best guess [21:17] Sugar n' spice and everything nice [21:17] a "sweet" Province [21:17] I have no defense... 12:4( [21:17] Candy land [21:17] Sugar Mountain [21:17] It could always be "Amai Province" (Sweet Province) [21:17] 3:4) [21:17] there were some spices in the province... [21:17] and it was meant to only be temporary (and quickly forgotten) hmmm [21:17] LOL... now it is part of our heritage [21:17] * FortyJ is going to have to be more careful with his "temporary province names" [21:17] Amaiken (Amei Prefecture) [21:17] Sweet Province (Amai Prefecture) [21:17] Forget it... I'm calling it Province #9 from now on... [21:17] 12:4) [21:18] Ohh.. I was going to put it in for today's Demogame News... [21:18] 3:4D [21:18] Now carrying out hafen land instructions [21:18] go ahead... yuk it up... 12:4) [21:18] Shouriken... That almost sounds (and looks like) Shuriken. 3:4) (ken = prefecture in Japanese - [21:18] * Eklektikos yuks it up [21:18] Hey Mr. President. Have you done Stuck's Instructions yet? [21:19] nope not yet [21:19] lok [21:19] hey, if they really have candy and cute girls there, update the census, I am on my way ;) [21:19] wanted to make sure the Serenity change was made [21:19] we need either CT or GF back in the Presidency (no offense Ekl) [21:19] 3:4) [21:19] check out Huntingon... 4 women, 2 men in the city screen. 12:4) [21:19] and why is that, mr Falcon? [21:19] great for sin city [21:19] :rolleyes: [21:19] glory days [21:20] hmmm [21:20] I believe eyrei's instructions at the bottom of the thread say they need to be carried out as soon as possible too. [21:20] Let's keep the chat rated PG-13. 3;4) [21:20] Bill - the alliance isn't even up for renegotiation until turn 4. [21:20] CT, have you watched PG-13 movies lately, IMHO the standards are "changing" for the worse [21:21] I think Eyrei was a little confused when he typed that [21:21] Then... rated G 3:4D [21:21] how about PG... that's decent [21:21] * Chieftess has noticed that Falc... [21:21] well, I wondered about that... [21:23] * Eklektikos has been wondering about that barracks in the Kyoto build queue since last TC ;) [21:23] I must have missed it being completed [21:23] or did it already exist on capture? [21:24] there's been one there quite some time... although I can't remember whether it came with the city [21:25] *** WildFire444 (java@=Zssfn25958895jrl.nstnig01.ct.comcast.net) has joined #demogame [21:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v WildFire444 [21:25] hi [21:25] hmmm... a couple of things were rushed when we took it... perhaps that was one and I missed it. My apologies for providing a dofus instruction. [21:25] no matter anyway. just gives me a moment of panic until I work out just why I can't queue it up ;) [21:25] *** Atzin_doing_the_bed (link__22@200.38.21.3x153=) has joined #demogame [21:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Atzin_doing_the_bed [21:25] hello [21:25] brb [21:26] Then just build the Knights baby! [21:26] hi [21:26] hi [21:26] Now carrying out North Province instructions [21:27] * Chieftess looks at EA, and at bill and doesn't want to know.. [21:27] the knights baby?? [21:27] hehe [21:27] if you were here a bit earlier, you'd know... [21:27] oh [21:27] almost done [21:28] * Atzin_doing_the_bed bed is composed of many layers [21:28] hehe [21:28] hmm...that didn't come out right [21:29] * Chieftess thinks of changing the topic... [21:29] I'd be rethinking that screen name EA... [21:29] you're an op CT, you can do it! [21:29] Now carrying out South Doughnut Coast instructions [21:30] *** Chieftess changes topic to 'Civfanatics.com: Civ3 Game of Democracy Chatroom. (must be over 18 :p)Forum is at http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=78 12Next turn chat Monday, December 30th at 2100h GMT (4:00pm EST)' [21:30] good advice Bill [21:30] lol [21:30] done!! [21:30] hehe [21:30] *** Atzin_doing_the_bed is now known as Ehecatl_Atzin [21:30] *** Chieftess changes topic to 'Civfanatics.com: Civ3 Game of Democracy Chatroom. Forum is at http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=78 12Next turn chat Monday, December 30th at 2100h GMT (4:00pm EST)' [21:31] god! making the bed is tiresome [21:31] Cyc: what change did you want made to serenity? [21:31] * Chieftess should name this chat "The Fruedian Slip Chat" [21:31] hehe [21:32] * Eklektikos thinks CT should stick to giving things titles she can spell :-p [21:32] *** Civanator (java@=sMzu17-4-299-119.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined #demogame [21:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Civanator [21:32] oooh [21:32] ;) [21:32] hehe [21:32] oohh..beacuse of the doing instead of making? hmm...quite naughty people in here! [21:32] * CivGeneral still has that "Keep it rated PG" [21:32] so, I just came from a drive in my new car!! ;) [21:32] Ek, the two entertainers should be working the open plains [21:33] i'm not sure if those were changed last time [21:33] 2 ЙІІІІІІІІЇЇЇЉжЋi [21:33] ? [21:33] huh? [21:33] hmm, one of them was changed. I have now changed the other as well [21:34] ty [21:35] Hi Civanator :) [21:35] Now carrying out Taliesin instructions [21:35] 2 hi [21:36] Ekl, the T/c has started? [21:36] 2 yes? [21:36] 2 no? [21:36] yep, just running through preturn at the moment [21:36] ok [21:36] :) [21:38] hey civ [21:38] 2 salutations cyc [21:38] :) [21:38] Whats new Civanator :) [21:38] * Xerex always feels that the starting of the preturn and the preturn take a bit more time than it should... [21:38] 2 My computer [21:38] :) [21:38] hi civanator [21:39] 2 Salutations all [21:40] salutations right back at you! [21:40] :) [21:41] * Civanator thinks CivGeneral is in a smilie mood today [21:41] 2 ;) [21:41] Moving on to Foreign Affairs instructions [21:42] 2 ЙІІІІІІІІЇЇЇЉжЋi [21:42] I have a lovely bunch of coconuts..dedlee dee dee.. [21:42] 2 |o| [21:42] 2 ' ' [21:42] 2 EA is crazy...... :mischief: [21:42] 2 ;) [21:43] hehehe [21:43] 2 |o| [21:43] 2 ' ' [21:43] 2 :) [21:43] there they are standing in a row..bom bom bom [21:43] 2 attack of the mutant coconuts! runaway! [21:43] 2 lol [21:43] 2 :lol: [21:43] big ones small ones some as big as your head! [21:43] 3-4_3- Meanwhile... Back in the demogame... [21:44] err..right :) [21:44] :) [21:44] 2 Chieftess alway's has to spoil the fun.... ;) [21:44] hehe [21:44] lol [21:45] Mr Military Leader, have you by any chance posted some instructions in the TC thread? [21:45] he's firing artillery across the bow of the enemy [21:46] let him dream for a bit [21:46] must be experimenting with these boomsticks [21:46] hehe. I thought it was Muskets ;) [21:46] 2 what tech are we on? [21:47] gunpowder [21:47] But, we're gonna do some tech trades [21:47] Falc's taken up witchcraft now? [21:47] speaking of which... [21:47] not that witch... [21:47] hehe [21:47] hehe [21:47] *** plexust (Enemysoldi@=hygo-fkuswo-qsbcop-anjxg-t-78.vnnyca.adelphia.net) has joined #demogame [21:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v plexust [21:47] 2 brb [21:47] hehe [21:47] Did you do those trades yet? [21:47] k [21:47] hi all [21:48] Are they even posted? [21:48] which trades were approved? [21:48] no trades in the TC instructons.. I've yet to go hunting for them in the fora [21:48] 3:4( [21:48] Look in the polls [21:48] The 2 tech trades [21:48] if they're not in th t/c instruction thread, they don't exist [21:49] hehe ;) [21:49] Oh, and Falcon does have instructions [21:49] they aren't in the trade thread [21:49] We stopped after 2 hours of preturn for this? 3:4) [21:49] 3:4p [21:49] yes [21:49] I got them in just in time :-p [21:50] *** WildFire444 (java@=Zssfn25958895jrl.nstnig01.ct.comcast.net) Quit (QUIT: User exited) [21:50] brb [21:50] 2 i'm back [21:50] http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40274 [21:50] and you didn't even notice them till now, I feel unwanted :-( [21:50] :-p [21:50] That's banking for astro. + 2g [21:50] to the Iroquois [21:50] refreshing TC thread to look at Falc's highly tardy instructions :-p [21:51] Banking to the Zulus for their boomsticks [21:51] http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40276 [21:51] 2 . [21:51] 2 oops [21:51] witchdoctors [21:52] boomsticks?? do they use boompowder? [21:52] I thought thwy were Muskets ;) [21:52] yeah, this powder only found in mountains and deserts [21:53] yes! a rare and smelly powder used to make booms much bigger than the one we use [21:53] hmm.. interesing [21:53] ok, calling on Hiawatha [21:53] don't let T/W get any! [21:53] All you need is Charcoal, Saltpeter, and Sulphur [21:53] they weren't HIGHLY tardy [21:53] they were in time [21:53] :-P [21:53] 2 Yes, what civg said [21:53] T/W? I left him with the Chinese, something about fireworks that intrigued him [21:54] if they were, they'd have been in the thread when I started the TC late ;) [21:54] lol [21:54] Sending Hiawatha smoke signals? [21:54] anyway I couldn't post them for the longest time [21:54] The Chinese used smoke signals too for war information to the capital. [21:55] I saw it on The Discovery Channel a year or so ago [21:55] tardy by about 12 minutes [21:55] okay [21:55] that's not that bad [21:55] 2 poor CT, they use rockets and shot the message away ;) [21:55] nah, I've been later [21:56] hmm... could someone please explain to me why the Iros will not accept the deal that was polled on? [21:56] * Falcon02 is reminded of the first space pioneer, a Chinese man who put tons of rockets on a chair and had a friend of his light the fuse.... he wanted to get to the moon, we don't know if he succeeded cause he was never seen or heard from again [21:56] true story too [21:56] they won't accept!?!? [21:57] !! [21:57] :O [21:57] :O [21:57] WHAT!!!!!!!! [21:57] Are you sure you're giving them banking? [21:57] 2 who is the Trade Leader? [21:57] BCLG was the Trade leader [21:57] BCLG [21:57] 2 I smell a PI [21:57] call the whole deal off [21:57] hmm... this is truely a disappointing turn of events... [21:57] 2 ;) [21:57] But the Trade department is empty [21:57] hum [21:57] It works in the save I have [21:57] It was: [21:57] Iroquois: [21:57] can we lower the gold to 1 or 0 ? [21:58] you didn't open that in PTW did you CT? [21:58] 760AD, correct? [21:58] CT? [21:58] it's 670AD [21:58] *670 [21:58] 2 dun dun dun dun... [21:58] lol [21:58] 12:4) [21:58] I used Vanilla civ [21:58] It's 670AD [21:58] I'm using vanilla civ right now. [21:58] is the save on drugs? [21:58] It's the "old" diplo screen [21:58] hmmm... something wrong then with the save [21:59] Ok, are you sure we're offering banking? [21:59] is this the first preturn item? [21:59] * Xerex believe he has encountered bargains where the computer would accept a deal and when he tried the same deal again, the computer wanted more... [21:59] I'm wondering if gunning screwed up the polls... [22:00] sometimes, they won't accept a deal you put up, but if you ask them what they'll offer, they give you the same deal... [22:00] do the Iroquois accept the trade without the gold?? [22:00] hm k [22:00] but maybe we can do the deal without the gold? [22:00] Yes, the Zulu deal was screwed up [22:00] but you say the deals worked on your save CT? [22:00] It should have been gunpowder for furs and banking [22:00] yeah [22:01] :hmm: [22:01] uh oh [22:01] the iroquois will not even accept a straight banking for astronomy trade [22:01] And, gunning had trouble with the polls [22:01] I'm checking [22:01] arg! [22:01] Can't trade do ANYTHING without me? [22:01] 3-4_3- [22:01] no [22:01] :-D [22:01] haha [22:01] doh! [22:01] Homer? ;) [22:01] zzzz [22:01] in my save they would accept it straight out, gun for bank [22:01] zzzz indeed [22:02] 2 is preserve random seed on? [22:02] I don't think that matters Civ [22:02] Ok, you know what? [22:02] I think gunning mixed up the techs [22:02] according to the rules, once it's played, it's played [22:02] *** Guest03435 (java@=3nbh711319q447-0532.bb.online.no) has joined #demogame [22:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Guest03435 [22:03] Gunning, you have some 'splaning to do! [22:03] gosh dang it! [22:03] lol [22:03] Try from us: furs, banking and worldmap for astro [22:03] *** Guest84172 (java@=3nbh711319q447-0532.bb.online.no) has joined #demogame [22:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Guest84172 [22:03] *** Guest84172 (java@=3nbh711319q447-0532.bb.online.no) Quit (QUIT: User exited) [22:03] *** Guest03435 is now known as traderwarrior [22:03] Then have a council vote to override the instructions... oh wait, the instructions weren't posted anyhow... [22:03] From the Iroquois - banking for gunpowder [22:03] hi everybody! [22:03] hi [22:03] Hi TW [22:03] poor gunning... 3:4) [22:03] do we have furs and they don't? [22:03] look! speaking of gunpowder mwahahaha [22:03] 2 a PI for gunning? [22:03] hi T/W [22:04] A peace of Pi for Gunning ;P [22:04] but... [22:04] they have furs in my save [22:04] The zulus would give us gunpowder for furs and banking... [22:04] The Iroq's [22:04] zulus will give us gunpowder for banking straight [22:08] and now the forum doesn't appear to be working [22:08] *** Disconnected [22:10] *** Attempting to rejoin... [22:10] *** Rejoined channel #demogame [22:10] *** Topic is 'Civfanatics.com: Civ3 Game of Democracy Chatroom. Forum is at http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=78 12Next turn chat Monday, December 30th at 2100h GMT (4:00pm EST)' [22:10] *** Set by Chieftess on Mon Dec 30 21:31:20 [22:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Eklektikos [22:11] wb Ekl :D [22:11] all hail the chief! [22:11] The Return of the King [22:11] hehe [22:11] hehe [22:11] that's gonna be a really good movie [22:11] Ok, here's what I found [22:11] didn't even realise I was gone... dial up connection went dead but didn't break [22:11] get those babies out of the server room Ek... 12:4) [22:11] 3Announcement: New Trade Announcement [22:11] 3:4) [22:11] From the Zulus [22:11] Astronomy [22:11] From Us [22:12] Furs, Banking, WM [22:12] hm [22:12] k [22:12] Trade banking to the Iroquois for gunpowder [22:12] Mr. President, just banking [22:12] was that what was originally proposed in the polls? [22:12] nope, it wasn't [22:12] But those aren't working for some reason [22:13] has DG2 been sabotaged? [22:13] maybe the poll was backwards [22:13] DG3! [22:13] backwards? [22:13] CT: which 670 save do you have? [22:13] the after trade one [22:13] Or else I wouldn't be able to check [22:13] ok... hmmm... [22:13] yeah, maybe the poll had the right deals, but had the civs switched... [22:13] :hmm: [22:13] but the iroqs have furs [22:14] And, I did have furs in one, but I don't think gunning put it in [22:14] never heard anythng about furs in the poll... [22:14] 2 back to the forums? [22:14] no the civs were right but the deals were switched [22:14] lol [22:14] :) [22:14] that's what I meant... [22:14] 12:4) [22:14] Gunning redid it two or three times.. [22:14] * CivGeneral hopes that we dont have another pre-turn stops like the last time >_< [22:14] I think it is fine to make the deals, as the stuff we are giving away and the civs involved are the same. [22:15] all in the name of progress... [22:15] i agree, let's get it done [22:15] ok [22:15] and move on [22:15] where's donsig? 12;4) [22:15] In the forums [22:15] God! Quick... let's get it done! 12;4) [22:15] *** donsig (ourkids99@=vCwa893.lib.rochester.edu) has joined #demogame [22:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v donsig [22:15] lol [22:15] wassup? [22:15] :scared: [22:15] hahahaha [22:16] hail donsig! [22:16] Hi Donsig [22:16] 17:12] <+FortyJ> where's donsig? 3;4) [22:16] [17:13] <@Chieftess> In the forums [22:16] [17:13] <+FortyJ> God! Quick... let's get it done! 3;4) [22:16] [17:13] *** donsig (ourkids99@=3Qmv680.lib.rochester.edu) [joined] #demogame. [22:16] Not 1 second too soon! [22:16] hehe [22:16] speak thy name... [22:16] that's some kind of Jedi trick aint it? [22:16] preturn? [22:16] yeah.. [22:16] donsig: deals where a little screwed [22:16] and yeah.. [22:16] hey donsig [22:16] hehe [22:17] Just a little civ reversal [22:17] But, it's fixed [22:17]