Session Start: Wed Dec 11 20:53:46 2002 Session Ident: #demogame [20:53] * Logging #demogame to 'C:\My Documents\#demogame.Webmaster.log' [20:54] i decided to push it a little further [20:57] *** Octavian_X (thesim1098@=s3lmqg-lq9-52.coin.org) has joined #demogame [20:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Octavian_X [20:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Octavian_X [20:59] hi octavian! i decided to stay [21:00] My mom had to use the phone... [21:01] well... looks like it's time to officially begin [21:02] My clock says so... [21:02] *** AdmiralPJ (peter@=38cwryhe.demon.co.uk) has joined #demogame [21:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v AdmiralPJ [21:02] TURN CHAT WILL NOW BEGIN [21:03] i don't know this demogame [21:03] looking through instruction thread... [21:03] Go to: http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=78 [21:04] now implementing North Province instructions [21:04] ok [21:04] what year are you upto? [21:05] That's a good question... [21:05] 430 [21:06] (AD) [21:06] *** Chieftess (jgasioro@=wLnse005.bcpl.net) has joined #demogame [21:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Chieftess [21:06] 12° I got the Mini-Powwa stick! 12° [21:07] You showed up. :P [21:07] ok, lemme copy/paste my instructions [21:07] mIRC locked up on me... [21:07] don't abuse that powwa stick hehe [21:08] Now implementing Southwest Province instructions [21:09] and reload for Taliesin [21:09] noted :) [21:10] ;) [21:10] Good [21:10] Nuke all the AI's.. win.. thats my orders ;P [21:10] Oh, and Forty didn't like the Trade instructions... [21:11] the luxs. [21:11] don`t you go tiring those workers now! [21:12] lol [21:12] they deserve some rest [21:12] Tarkingrad needs to be connected. 12:4) [21:12] *** traderwarrior (java@=XSni592356o165-3001.bb.online.no) Quit (QUIT: User exited) [21:12] Then they can rest. [21:13] Looks like I'm representing FA. [21:14] there's an irragated grassland tile west of the wheat by Palanthus that could be mined instead (and the one to the north), but it doesn't seem too important yet... [21:14] just something to look for. [21:15] And, why is the worker irragating the mined tile west of that lake? [21:15] Dacula could scrape out 1 more spt... [21:15] you mean the shielded grassland? [21:15] yeah [21:15] sounds like their trying to irrigate to another city [21:15] *** Octavian_X (thesim1098@=s3lmqg-lq9-52.coin.org) Quit (Ping Timeout) [21:16] force of habit and lack of instructions otherwise ;) [21:18] Now implementing Taliesin instructions [21:19] * Chieftess wonders of everyone forgot there was a turnchat today [21:19] so what civ are you playing? [21:20] Germany [21:20] the apolyton demo game has gone to about 1500ad [21:20] but its too beureucratic in that one [21:20] cool, [21:20] one of my early favorite civiies [21:20] *** gunning1 (gunning1@66.189.239.8A036=) has joined #demogame [21:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v gunning1 [21:20] HI [21:20] hi [21:20] real crowded [21:20] : [21:20] ;) [21:20] I think everyone forgot... [21:21] same here [21:21] so hows it going (the game) [21:21] preturn [21:21] Gunning! Excellent! Now I can hold spot council votes without getting PI-ed! :D [21:22] hehe [21:22] YAY!!!! [21:22] :) [21:22] Especially since I'm representing FA [21:22] F. All ? :P [21:22] Foriegn Affairs [21:23] Foriegn Advisor [21:23] *** Octavian_X (thesim1098@=Rfysvy-ad7-26.coin.org) has joined #demogame [21:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Octavian_X [21:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Octavian_X [21:23] ah, makes more sense, I'm FA in our PBEM demo game, with lots of teams, [21:23] Or, as one of the elections said "Foreign Leader" [21:23] heh, I sometimes forget that some of you wear multiple hats simulataneously... [21:23] *** eyrei_drunk (ianeyre@=SKsir72-47-498.nc.rr.com) has joined #demogame [21:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v eyrei_drunk [21:23] *** eyrei_drunk is now known as eyrei [21:23] watch out... [21:23] You're late! No more beer for you! :p [21:23] I'm the Foreign Minister for team Lux invicta, PTW PBEM apolyton game [21:23] and now it appears you're not, CT ;-) [21:23] is this everyone? [21:23] Both of you are late!!!! :P [21:23] we have sipahis.. attack 8 cavalry ;)) [21:23] Well, not as late as Eyrei [21:24] lol [21:24] I just came backi... [21:24] you should call yourself Foreign Mistress [21:24] ok [21:24] hehe, but i am her boss;) [21:24] well, i haven't been here for too long [21:24] I took over since you weren't here. ;) [21:24] that wouldn't look good... [21:24] np [21:24] :P [21:24] not much as far as FA is concerned for this chat [21:25] preturn over yet? [21:25] where is everyone? [21:25] nope [21:25] not here... [21:26] * Octavian_X eats a doughnut. [21:26] * gunning1 eats a chip [21:26] 2 actually [21:27] * Chieftess eats a Palanthusian Corn Roll from the wheat/corn fields [21:27] hey ct, how do i change my default nick back? [21:27] file > options [21:27] Under file, options [21:28] dosen't sound very appetising to be honest chief :P [21:28] There's an area to set your nick. [21:28] i think i found it [21:28] It's a local cuisine... [21:28] brb [21:28] *** eyrei (ianeyre@=SKsir72-47-498.nc.rr.com) Quit (QUIT: User exited) [21:28] *** eyrei (ianeyre@=SKsir72-47-498.nc.rr.com) has joined #demogame [21:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v eyrei [21:28] ok, that worked [21:28] * gunning1 claps [21:28] bonzer [21:28] lol [21:28] :P [21:29] They add spice from the mountains and forest around Bavaria [21:29] for someone who doesn't play in the RPG you are certainly roleplaying;) [21:29] :p [21:29] Interactive roleplaying [21:30] This is the demogame, remember... :-P [21:30] The RPG thread just seems too cumbersome [21:30] agreed [21:30] we just have to make do with moudly second hand squids fromthe spanish Roleplaying team [21:31] what is really funny is I am one of the wealthiest members of the rpg [21:31] they RP squid trading! [21:31] from simply doing nothing? [21:31] hehe [21:31] no, my business was very profitable for the month or so i participated [21:31] and i don't spend anything [21:31] The RPG thread just doesn't seem... sponteneous [21:31] i'll RP a knight .. the Red knight of Nottingham [21:32] It's like you can only post a thread if it's a business or a contest. [21:32] ok, i'll be in and out [21:32] me too... [21:32] me too [21:32] ;) [21:32] That's what I liked about the 1st demgame. The RPG stuff was more spontenous. [21:33] No businesses, and techs that we're not even close to discovering yet [21:33] Can't disagree there... [21:33] true... institutionalising it killed the fun, rather [21:33] ill be in and out (doin homework and checking other threads) [21:33] You can always make some Guilds [21:33] they kinda died out too [21:34] I have to say, the RPG is really much more work than anything... [21:35] I like the idea of Battle RPGs, or stories are easier maybe [21:35] We do have a game where people fight over tiles [21:36] We had "guilds" (or citizen's groups) last game... [21:36] That fizzled out this game, though. [21:36] Last game, there were 2 very "old" and strong groups - "The War Church", and "The Spice Traders Guild" [21:36] theres quite good RP aspects in our multiplayer PBEM game, [21:37] good RP diplomacy etc [21:37] apart from that squid disaster :P [21:37] The Squid Wars. 12:4) [21:37] now carrying out FA instructions [21:37] ok [21:37] I don't know what happened there, though. [21:37] hehe thats what its coming too if we can't ban their squid exports [21:40] bacl to the TC? [21:40] Alliance signed with romans [21:40] their attitude is now "cautious" [21:41] >-D [21:42] >:> [21:42] ?? [21:42] ok [21:43] had to say something... [21:43] :) [21:43] *** Guest86370 (java@207.225.82.a5466=) has joined #demogame [21:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Guest86370 [21:43] hi [21:44] *** Guest86370 is now known as bill_in_that_place [21:44] hi Bill [21:44] hi [21:44] howdy [21:44] So, how's the preturn coming along? [21:44] I finally busted my firewall at work, so I am happy to join you all... [21:44] bclg's trade instructions are giving me a hadache [21:44] and a headache [21:44] Ekle - Forty didn't like the lux trades.. [21:45] but NOT a haddock [21:45] Especially getting luxs from elsewhere [21:45] ok, bclg has got to do the trade deals [21:45] cause we are going to give furs and education to russia for invention [21:45] and also do some other deals [21:45] ... [21:45] *** Octavian_X (thesim1098@=Rfysvy-ad7-26.coin.org) Quit (Connection reset by peer) [21:46] Forty just didn't like us getting extra luxs... [21:46] just start a war and get techs in return from peace.. that works well with ruskis [21:46] i also found out the the persians own invention [21:46] and they are willing to give peace for peace [21:47] but the Invention for Education + Furs deal I can still do :) [21:47] but they wont include invention [21:47] same here [21:47] gunning, that'd ruin our reputation anyway [21:47] then take one of their cities gun, and make them want pecace badly [21:47] they are too far away from us [21:47] And that city would be corrupt for ages [21:48] And might flip [21:48] let them come and attack you, and destroytheir armies then [21:48] just abandon the city then [21:48] ok, doing the russian deal :) [21:48] once you've made the deal.. they'd make a new citiy in its place then, [21:48] or you could resettle [21:48] cool eklekitkos [21:49] we will be a lot closer to military tradition then [21:50] (which we seriously need) [21:50] educations a big tech tho [21:50] gives them universities [21:50] (i'm not actually registered in the demogame) [21:51] brb [21:51] but it gets us 24 turns closer to military tradition [21:51] Deal done. We got invention + world map in exchange for education + furs [21:51] anything uncovered with the Map? I doubt it I guess... [21:51] and they were one of the only places without education [21:51] ahh.. [21:52] nothing new or even remotely interesting to report, Bill [21:52] as long as your not stuck in a giant jungle like the Apolyton demo1 guys were lol [21:52] thought so Ek [21:53] *** Civanator (java@=ezxj89-5-480-718.ri.ri.cox.net) has joined #demogame [21:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Civanator [21:53] 2 hello [21:54] hola [21:54] 2 not many people here [21:54] hi [21:54] so we should get about 3 librarys done this t/c [21:54] it gets less true everytime omeone says it, though :) [21:54] back [21:54] lol ekle [21:54] wb CT [21:55] anything happen yet? [21:55] about the last 2 or 3 people [21:55] said that [21:55] mow carrying out Military instructions [21:55] including me [21:55] 2 still turn 1? [21:55] turn 0 [21:55] 2 that's what i meant [21:58] quite a few trade deal i must say... [21:59] End of turn 0 [21:59] 430AD, 298 gold, 65 gpt, Gunpowder in 40 turns [21:59] Sci/Tax/Lux = 0/10/0 [21:59] 2 yup [21:59] k [21:59] did u do all the trade deals? [21:59] 2 no [21:59] y not? [22:00] 2 I wasn't here [22:00] 2 i went to Vermont [22:00] 2 usa [22:00] 2 to ski Okemo [22:02] *** Grand_Admrial_CivGeneral (java@=ZGwth-xq-586apaaqgQ7927.dialsprint.net) has joined #demogame [22:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Grand_Admrial_CivGeneral [22:02] Hi everyone :) [22:02] hi [22:03] i'm the admiral ;P [22:03] hello [22:03] Did I mised anything [22:03] CG - Admrial? 12:4) [22:03] *** FortyJ (fortyj@=M8vpki-02-70-890.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #demogame [22:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v FortyJ [22:03] Hello all! [22:03] hola [22:03] hi [22:03] Ekle did the trade instructions... [22:03] not the CG admiral no ;P [22:03] I carried out one trade [22:03] all of them? [22:03] the russian one [22:03] hehe [22:03] * Chieftess wonders if CG notices the typo [22:04] >_< [22:04] I just wash the mainsails [22:04] Spelling please [22:04] :rolleyes: [22:04] Admrial - Admiral [22:04] -< thats how its spelt [22:04] gave them furs & education in exchange for invention & world map [22:04] so we have discovered Invention? [22:04] courtmartiallable offence [22:04] *** theGreyFox (zeGreyFox@=Dnaqw-fgf4.rsn.bth.se) has joined #demogame [22:04] brb [22:04] * gunning1 goes away for about a minute and everyone comes and talks at the same time [22:04] *** Grand_Admrial_CivGeneral is now known as Grand_Admiral_CivGeneral [22:04] hi everyone [22:04] are we still in preturn? [22:04] There :p [22:04] yup [22:05] 12:4D [22:05] *** Chieftess sets mode: +v theGreyFox [22:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o theGreyFox [22:05] Ah still a pre turn :) [22:06] * FortyJ wonders what it's like to have "Op" powers... [22:06] hehe [22:06] not so great in here... you get PI-ed if you use them [22:06] ;) [22:06] you get PIed even if you don't 12;4) [22:07] * theGreyFox is working on a flavour mod, all japanese units added so far, with 2 different names, the real name, and i.e. Asian Spearman, and that one is used as the spearman for the other Asian Nations until I can replace those graphics with nation specific graphics instead of cultural. I have added all the WW2 riflemen, fighters, and tanks, and I am about 25 units from CivFanatics, NO RULE-changes, only graphics. [22:07] lol [22:07] ?ed [22:07] another parapragh [22:07] * Grand_Admiral_CivGeneral wonders why the Pi symbol is not showing [22:07] symbol? [22:07] preturn save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Fanatika_430AD_preturn.zip [22:07] best way to get something said in a chatroom :) [22:08] :D [22:08] btw, did we get dyes from America? [22:08] In my mega Genesis mod i've got riflemen that bombard, for ranged shooting attacks [22:08] no, we didn't [22:09] hrmm... [22:09] Mean while in the Demogame... [22:09] have you got any english citynames? [22:09] more micromanagement for you then.... [22:09] should we have? [22:09] GF started it [22:09] yes! [22:09] english ports :P [22:09] 2 we were suppose to get dyes [22:09] * theGreyFox would like a s2nd type of bombard that only effects UNits, and not terrain improvements or Buildings. I would then add that to all units deserving it... don't mind me, back to the demogame ... :p [22:09] or maybe you can't have german and english together, argg my G key stuck [22:10] hehe [22:10] I was only against any trades or diplo missions that spent our hard-earned money... [22:10] heh, guess I missed it in bclg's trade instructions [22:10] if we can get dyes for education with Trade Dept's blessing, go for it [22:10] True, we need to save some money for the military upg grades [22:10] but tis not too late :) [22:11] if we can sell a lux or two and improve our cash position, amen to that too. 12:4) [22:11] 2 ok [22:11] another penguin in CFC: Scary Penguin [22:11] lol [22:11] What lux can we traide [22:12] I think we have excess Incense [22:12] Lets trade some incense. Ill suggest that to the Trade dept. [22:12] Deal done. We got Dyes, World Map + 1g in exchange for education [22:13] 12:4) [22:13] ok, pressing enter (finally) [22:13] Please :) [22:13] 2 wait! [22:13] I think Trade also approved the sale of Incense to highest bidder... [22:14] 2 did you do the deal with rome? [22:14] Excellent :D [22:14] or did they specify Rome only? [22:14] 2 Rome only [22:14] haha GF! Look at your post in the staff forum, the :p just cut off a word. 12:4) [22:14] I don't think Rome has anything left to offer [22:14] They cant offer any money [22:15] 2 As you all know it is very cold in Russia and they would gladly give us the secrets of invention if we export furs to them and give them the secrets of our educational system. If we did this we could also give our education system to America in return for dyes. Perhaps someday we could sell dyed furs to the Russians? We could make those two deals and then sell incense and furs to Rome for 16gpt, W [22:15] Did we renew the alliance with Rome vs Persia. [22:15] 2 WM and 50g. We could then turn around and buy Babylonian ivory for 16gpt, WM and 155g. We currently have 4 luxuries in our connected cities and have the ability to build markets. We currently have 5 unconnected cities, mainly in the northwest. Tarkingrad is our sole non-northern unconnected city. We should also consider giving education to France and England. We do not want them getting too far be [22:15] We could sell furs or incense.. [22:15] 2 behind America! [22:15] 2 those are the trade instructions [22:15] Lets sell soome surplus lux [22:15] alliance with rome was renewed [22:15] and they've paid us for it, yes? [22:15] Allience and furs for gems [22:15] 2 did you get ivory from babs? [22:15] yes, they have [22:16] no, ivory [22:16] hehe.. if only I were in trade again... [22:16] 12:4) [22:16] so, they probably have nothing of value to offer for our valuable Incense... [22:16] 2 When i get my computer..... [22:17] you just want to be in charge of everything chief :P [22:17] I used to be the Trade Leader in the first demogame (and this one) [22:18] babs want big bucks for ivory [22:18] if only I were despot prez again :p [22:18] hehe [22:18] well, I guess the issue comes down to this: do we have the authority to make a trade without the blessing or instructions from the dept? [22:19] You're welcome to it after this term, GF. I'm retiring ;) [22:19] in other words... meanwhile, in the demogame... 12:4) [22:19] our Demo game will trade your demo game 50tonnes of squid for 500gp [22:20] Ekle - if we can get a settler by the Ivory near Baltimore, we won't need to shell out the big bucks. [22:20] We'll give you spiced doughnuts if you lower the offer [22:20] 40j: yes, we can override his instructions with a council vote [22:20] :D [22:20] the settler from Padmativa will be able to get ivory if settled in site A* [22:20] hmmm donuts [22:20] 2 huh? [22:21] 150gp and 10tonnes donuts and a kiss from you CT ;P [22:21] 2 what about trade? [22:21] meanwhile back in the demogame... [22:22] meanwhile back in the demogame, I'm going to press enter now [22:22] hehe [22:22] hehe [22:22] * FortyJ witnesses the birth of a new acronym... m,bitd = meanwhile, back in the demogame [22:22] Want us to help? [22:22] 2 what did you say about overriding trade? [22:22] 2 m/bitdg [22:22] @Forty - A new script! :-D [22:22] Civ: Trade instructions can be overridden with a spot council vote [22:23] M,bitdg [22:23] way ahead of you CT... 12;4) [22:23] *** bill_in_that_place (java@207.225.82.a5466=) Quit (nexus.webchat.org arena.webchat.org) [22:23] *** eyrei (ianeyre@=SKsir72-47-498.nc.rr.com) Quit (nexus.webchat.org arena.webchat.org) [22:23] :p [22:23] 2 what about them do you want to override? [22:23] ah crap [22:23] argg irc civil war [22:23] I can represent FA. 12:4) [22:23] nothing, just answering 40j's question [22:23] 2 that cn't be good [22:23] or culture flip (a split) [22:23] until eyrei returns [22:23] an IRC culture flip... [22:23] 2 ? [22:23] * gunning1 is kinda back [22:23] ? [22:23] chief has said 'I can represent FA. :)' about 10 times now [22:24] i mean that split with eyrei [22:24] he should join the arena server [22:24] Roll Call - Who's here? [22:24] Military Chat Rep :D [22:24] FA Deputy / Governor [22:24] 2 CT, you represent foreign affairs, eyeri isn't here [22:25] Domestic [22:25] * Grand_Admiral_CivGeneral wonders where Strider is [22:25] - not registered, a mere peasant [22:25] 2 yah, after his science defeat he disappeared [22:25] he's in mourning, I think [22:25] Just "Poof" disapreared [22:26] hmm... Poofstrider [22:26] sounds like BlueStrider... [22:26] 2 why is he in mourning? [22:26] yea, I had that moment before, Mourning after I was totaly defeated in domestic ;) [22:26] he wants a job. This might be the first time in forever that he's positionless in the DG [22:27] *** Guest74181 (java@207.225.82.ge900=) has joined #demogame [22:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Guest74181 [22:27] 2 oh [22:27] Civanator, remember. Strider has held the logest term ;) [22:27] that i took away ;) [22:27] :) [22:27] hehe [22:27] ahh, gunning is here too [22:27] that's Science. [22:27] yup [22:27] Persia and England have signed a peace treaty :( [22:27] silence... [22:28] * Grand_Admiral_CivGeneral watches as Gunning makes a very big smile [22:28] 2 me and strider arfe the only people in the demogame who have run for science every term in the first and second demogame [22:28]