Session Start: Tue Jan 21 19:47:16 2003
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[19:48] <@Chieftess> that was not nice
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[19:48] <@Chieftess> Had he done that during the turn chat, I would have hunted him down and banned him for a month!
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[19:50] <@Octavian_X> violent, aren't we?
[19:50] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[19:50] <@Chieftess> At least I'm not AoA and calling them names...
[19:50] * +CivGeneral wonders who has been banned
[19:50] <@Chieftess> Someone from New Jersey. 10:12)
[19:51] <+CivGeneral> Ahh
[19:51] <@Chieftess> Who in the demogame is from New Jersey?
[19:51] <+CivGeneral> I am from Conneticut
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[19:55] <+Fionn696_-Away> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[19:56] * @Octavian_X readies up the ol' game
[19:56] <@Chieftess> Every seen anyone with this username? brlngt01.nj.comcast.net
[19:56] <+Fionn696_-Away> ok good i dont have to be dp
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[19:57] <@Chieftess> The litte *insert an AoA word of choice here* started posting a... WWII image...
[19:57] <@Octavian_X> Or religious symbol...
[19:58] <@Chieftess> true, I think it might've been facing the wrong way
[19:58] <@Chieftess> But, it was red and black
[19:58] <+Fionn696_-Away> what about ww 2 its been 60 years its done
[19:58] <@Octavian_X> point...
[19:58] <@Octavian_X> taken
[19:58] <@Chieftess> Think of it this way... if it points to the right, it's the far-right extremists. 10:12)
[19:59] <+CivGeneral> :)
[19:59] <+Eklektikos> or Charles Manson
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[20:01] *** Topic is 'Welcome to Fanatika! CivFanatic's Center Civ3 Game of Democracy II. Forum is at http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=78 12Next Turn Chat:: Tuesday, January 21 at 2100 EST (Wednesday, Jan. 22 at 0200 GMT)'
[20:01] *** Set by FortyJ on Sat Jan 18 11:35:45
[20:01] *** ChanServ 4[voices] Octavian
[20:01] <+Octavian> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
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[20:01] <+Octavian> dratted ISP..
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[20:02] <@Octavian_X> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
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[20:02] <@Octavian_X> Greetings, Feodor
[20:02] <@Falcon02> hey Feodor
[20:02] <+Feodor> Guten Nacht
[20:02] <+CivGeneral> Hi Feodor
[20:02] * +Fionn696_-Away has left the Chat. Reason: [watching tv (JAG)] Pager: ON
[20:03] <+Feodor> And I was wondering if I should admit to just finishing Buffy . . .
[20:03] <@Octavian_X> Shall we get this thing underway?
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[20:03] <+Feodor> Hail, embattled citizenry!
[20:04] <+Feodor> Call the meeting to order, Mr. Chairman.
[20:04] <+BlueStrider> Forty's not running today?
[20:05] <@Octavian_X> I guess not...
[20:05] <@Octavian_X> Reminder to DP...
[20:05] <@Octavian_X> Due to the new war, be sure to click on all units that may be moving from the Northern front to the Indian border in the event that some of them need to be diverted towards Babylon. Same goes for workers that may be in danger.
[20:05] <+CivGeneral> k
[20:05] <@Octavian_X> He posted that
[20:05] * @Falcon02 is working on is instructions
[20:05] * +CivGeneral watches as Falcon02 writes quickly
[20:05] <@Falcon02> :-)
[20:05] <+BlueStrider> Falcon: Do you agree with me that those two wonders would be a better gain then letting someone else get them? Or the Bab's keep them?
[20:05] <@Octavian_X> This Turn Chat is now underway, Vice President Octavian X presiding..  :D
[20:06] <+BlueStrider> Don't fall
[20:06] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[20:06] <+Feodor> At least he's a cheerful chairman.
[20:06] <@Falcon02> yeah Strider
[20:06] <@Octavian_X> Feodor: This is my only responsibility as VP...
[20:06] <+BlueStrider> Yup... CHAIRman is right :)
[20:06] <@Chieftess> who finally gets to play
[20:07] <+CivGeneral> Octavian
[20:07] <+Feodor> I'll passed the hot toddy's around.
[20:07] <+BlueStrider> I never got to play when I was VP *gives falcon an evil glance*
[20:07] <@Falcon02> Oct, make sure you read my instructions before Donovan's (because I don't wanna do everything he says)
[20:07] <@Octavian_X> lol
[20:07] <+Feodor> Below-zero wind chills everywhere
[20:07] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[20:07] <@Falcon02> I got to be DP before
[20:07] <@Octavian_X> I'll wait for you, falc...
[20:07] <+Feodor> Bavaria, my office.
[20:07] * +CivGeneral has gotten to be the DP
[20:07] <@Falcon02> go ahead with the rest of the Preturn though Oct
[20:08] <+CivGeneral> There are plenty of Doughnuts Oct ;)
[20:08] <+Feodor> Hot, greasy . . .
[20:08] <+Feodor> College cafeteria donuts.
[20:08] <+Feodor> Yum.
[20:08] <@Octavian_X> Mmmm...
[20:08] <@Octavian_X> doughnuts
[20:08] <+CivGeneral> Mmmm...
[20:08] <+Feodor> Donuts and coke for breakfast.
[20:08] * +CivGeneral hands Octavian_X a Doughnut
[20:08] <@Octavian_X> Before I get too distracted, I'll start on Rhineland
[20:09] <+CivGeneral> k
[20:09] * @Falcon02 thinks he has everything
[20:09] <+Feodor> Why?  Is there a woman in your room?
[20:10] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[20:10] <@Chieftess> ?
[20:10] <+Jackc_making_map> fwahaha.
[20:10] <+Jackc_making_map> anyway
[20:10] <+Jackc_making_map> I'll just make map
[20:10] <+CivGeneral> Order, please
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[20:18] *** Topic is 'Welcome to Fanatika! CivFanatic's Center Civ3 Game of Democracy II. Forum is at http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=78 12Next Turn Chat:: Tuesday, January 21 at 2100 EST (Wednesday, Jan. 22 at 0200 GMT)'
[20:18] *** Set by FortyJ on Sat Jan 18 11:35:45
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[20:18] *** ChanServ 4[voices] Octavian_X
[20:18] <+Octavian_X> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
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[20:18] <@Octavian_X> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
[20:18] <@Octavian_X> dratted ISP...
[20:18] <+BlueStrider> ..... Hi!
[20:19] <+Feodor> Welcome back, your excellency.
[20:19] <@Octavian_X> Hello
[20:19] <+CivGeneral> 12Welcome 12Back Octavina
[20:19] <+Fionn696_> *glare* are you sure your not gonna get booted this time ovtavian
[20:19] <+CivGeneral> 12Welcome 12Back Octavian
[20:19] <@Octavian_X> @Fionn: No  :(
[20:19] <+Fionn696_> should i dp instead?
[20:19] <@Octavian_X> We have this device that disconnects me when someone calls
[20:19] <+BlueStrider> Fionn: WOULD you like the wonders Sun Tzu and The Pyramids :)
[20:19] * +CivGeneral ties down Octavian so He wont exscape ;)
[20:19] <+BlueStrider>  
[20:20] <@Octavian_X> I'm almost done with the SW province...
[20:20] * +Feodor Feodor looks this "tie up" up in parlimentary procedure.
[20:20] <@Chieftess> I'm half-doing tournament stuff (getting ready for season 4-1) Page me; (CT) if you need me.
[20:20] <+Fionn696_> ok then call me if im needed
[20:20] <+BlueStrider> First of all... Look under ties down :)
[20:20] <+BlueStrider> Fionn!!!
[20:21] <+Feodor> Ohhh!
[20:21] <+Feodor> It even specifies how scratchy the rope can be.
[20:21] <+BlueStrider> Fionn... What's your phone number..... Because I need to call you :(
[20:21] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[20:21] <+Feodor> So the Babs actually have USEFUL Wonders.
[20:21] <@Octavian_X> On to Senator Stuck_as_a_Mac...
[20:21] <+Fionn696_> *glare*
[20:22] <+Fionn696_> watching TV only call my name if i need to DP!
[20:22] <+BlueStrider> I need to ask you a question though!
[20:22] <@Chieftess> Say SunTzu. 10:12)
[20:22] <+BlueStrider> The Pyramids?
[20:23] <+BlueStrider> OMG..... I'm an idoit :)
[20:23] <+BlueStrider> I meant SunTzu? :)
[20:23] <+Feodor> That's nasty.
[20:23] <@Octavian_X> ???
[20:23] <+BlueStrider> ???
[20:23] <@Chieftess> Meanwhile... in the demogame...
[20:23] <+CivGeneral> ???
[20:23] <+BlueStrider> I thought we were in the demogame... It's #demogame :)
[20:23] <+CivGeneral> Order, Order. The Demogame is in session
[20:24] <@Octavian_X> I say that!
[20:24] <+BlueStrider> It HAS been in session :)
[20:24] <+Feodor> We need the voice of authority.
[20:24] <+Feodor> Moe, hit Curly in the head.
[20:24] <@Octavian_X> Stop talking before I kick you...  >-)
[20:24] * +BlueStrider hits CivGeneral on the head
[20:24] <@Chieftess> Don't make me use my mod script
[20:24] * +Feodor is deathly quiet.
[20:24] <+CivGeneral> Strider, stop that >:(
[20:25] <@Octavian_X> Moving on to The Burrow...
[20:25] <+BlueStrider> CT: Remember... Kicking doesn't work to well on me... I always bounce back in :)
[20:25] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[20:25] <@Octavian_X> banning helps, though
[20:25] <@Octavian_X> >)
[20:25] <+BlueStrider> Not really...
[20:25] <+BlueStrider> When there's a netsplit it takes away the ba
[20:25] <+BlueStrider> *ban
[20:25] <+Feodor> Bruce Banning would be useful in this situation.
[20:26] * +CivGeneral watches as everyone backs away from Octavian
[20:26] <@Octavian_X> lol
[20:26] * +Feodor studies his fingernails.
[20:26] <@Chieftess> Since I'm the chatop, I can devoice you.
[20:26] <+BlueStrider> ..... I get to use PM's?
[20:27] * +BlueStrider double-clicks on everyone's name and gets ready to pm them incase he needs to 
[20:27] <+Feodor> PM?
[20:27] <+BlueStrider> Private Message :)
[20:28] <+CivGeneral> :)
[20:28] <@Octavian_X> On to Cyc and the North Province
[20:28] <+Feodor> Whisper, Whisper.
[20:28] <@Chieftess> Can you post the instructions?
[20:28] <+BlueStrider> Who?
[20:28] <@Chieftess> Oct
[20:29] <+BlueStrider> ..... ok
[20:29] * +BlueStrider is bored
[20:29] <+Feodor> Gods of Fanatakia! Is anyone building cannon!
[20:29] <+Feodor> Just Rabble-rousing.
[20:29] <+CivGeneral> :eek:
[20:29] <+BlueStrider> We have God's?
[20:29] <+Feodor> I said rousing, not mousing.
[20:30] <+BlueStrider> ok
[20:30] <@Octavian_X> sure...
[20:30] <+Feodor> The Gods are the ones who drew tiles all over the planet.
[20:30] * +BlueStrider drums fingers on the table
[20:30] <+CivGeneral> A moose?
[20:30] <@Octavian_X> Dammit
[20:30] <+Feodor> A moose once bit my sister.
[20:30] <@Chieftess> what?
[20:30] <+BlueStrider> LOL.... Read all of that from the I'm bored part down :)
[20:30] <+BlueStrider> Everyone shut up and do do it :)
[20:31] <+CivGeneral> ?
[20:31] <@Octavian_X> I have to go for a bit
[20:31] <+Feodor> It's the humor.
[20:31] <@Chieftess> Fionn696_
[20:31] <+CivGeneral> Uh ho, Someone get Fionn ;)
[20:31] <@Octavian_X> brb
[20:31] <+Feodor> Nauseates some people.
[20:31] <@Chieftess> Paging Fionn696
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[20:40] *** Set by FortyJ on Sat Jan 18 11:35:45
[20:40] *** ChanServ 4[ops] Octavian_X
[20:40] <@Octavian_X> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
[20:40] <+donsig> que pasta?
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[20:41] <+cyc> hey donsig
[20:41] <@Octavian_X> 10 minutes.  Exactly
[20:41] <+Feodor> que toro?
[20:41] <+donsig> hello
[20:41] <+CivGeneral> 12Welcome 12Back Octavian
[20:41] <+Eklektikos> Hola! Que towel? ;)
[20:41] <+Feodor> "Where's the beef?"
[20:41] <+CivGeneral> What did that taco bell dog always say?
[20:41] <@Fionn696_> are you going to have to leave again octavian?
[20:41] <@Octavian_X> While that happened, I finished the build queues...
[20:41] <@Octavian_X> Hopefully, no
[20:41] <+Feodor> Yo quiero taco bell.
[20:41] <+cyc> Si!
[20:41] <+CivGeneral> Feodor: Thats the one :D
[20:42] <@Fionn696_> send me the save just in case
[20:42] <@Octavian_X> On to eyrei and FA
[20:42] <+Feodor> That and an beer.
[20:42] <@Chieftess> Sprechen Sie Englisch! 10:12)
[20:42] <@Falcon02> Feodor.... the Yo is over redundent, though not gramatically inncorrect
[20:42] <@Falcon02> Yo = I       quiero = I want
[20:42] <+Feodor> I got a C in sophomore Spanish.
[20:42] <+Feodor> Learned maybe four words all year.
[20:42] <@Octavian_X> The 'yo' is optional, yet correct in that usage
[20:43] <+cyc> Hey CG, are we watching a 40JaFK documentary now?
[20:43] <+CivGeneral> hehe, yep
[20:43] <+Feodor> Some day, maybe.
[20:43] <+Feodor> If he gets shot.
[20:43] <@Octavian_X> lol
[20:43] <+cyc> :)
[20:43] <@Octavian_X> Maybe I'll be sworn in on an airplane...
[20:43] <@Chieftess> a 40J afk documentry? 10:12)
[20:44] <+cyc> n/m CT
[20:44] <+Feodor> And show off your gall bladder scar.
[20:44] <@Fionn696_> cant im gonna assasinate you for leaving
[20:44] <@Octavian_X> eyrei: Can I ssume those are alliances vs. the Babs?
[20:44] <@Fionn696_> you killed my enjoyment for JAG
[20:44] <+Feodor> That could hurt.
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[20:44] <+Feodor> We ain't mad at the Zulus.
[20:45] <+Feodor> Howdy.
[20:45] <+CivGeneral> Hi Goonie
[20:45] <+Goonie> hi
[20:45] <@Chieftess> We still have an allience with the Zulus...
[20:45] <@Chieftess> Or did we forget that war/
[20:45] <@Chieftess> ?
[20:45] <@Octavian_X> eyrei?
[20:45] <+cyc> hey
[20:45] <+Goonie> hi
[20:45] <+Feodor> With the Persians, I think.
[20:45] <+Goonie> CYC. Where you being sarcastic?
[20:45] <+Goonie> were*
[20:45] <@Octavian_X> before I forget...
[20:45] <+Feodor> Eyrei?
[20:45] <+cyc> when?
[20:45] <@Chieftess> 10-12_10-
[20:46] *** Octavian_X 4[deops] Fionn696_
[20:46] <+Goonie> In my plan B proposal?
[20:46] <+Feodor> I'd hate to be the one editing this turn chat for publication.
[20:46] <+Goonie> When you said it was well writen
[20:46] <+cyc> not at all, Goonie. The truth
[20:46] <+Goonie> OH
[20:46] * +Goonie blushes
[20:47] <@Chieftess> umm....
[20:47] <@Chieftess> If the Designated Player leaves, they pass a current save game and control to the next person in the COC.
[20:47] <@Chieftess> Once a player has started playing, he/she is the designated player for that chat turn and will not relinquish play to a late arriving/returning but higher ranked official.
[20:47] <+Goonie> I dont think so. Its going to fail miserably
[20:47] <@Chieftess> If a game has to be used that is not current then the moves from the chat log must be duplicated.
[20:47] <@Chieftess> It passed to Fionn, so shouldn't he play?
[20:47] <+donsig> if everyone leaves I can be the DP!
[20:47] <@Octavian_X> I got back in ten minutes
[20:47] <+Goonie> why not Oct.
[20:47] <+Goonie> he is Vice.
[20:47] *** Octavian_X 4[ops] Fionn696_
[20:47] <@Fionn696_> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
[20:47] <+cyc> doesn't matter if it fails or not. Good proposals and good polls still fail
[20:47] *** Octavian_X 4[deops] Fionn696_
[20:47] <@Chieftess> But, look at the rules
[20:48] <@Octavian_X> Something isn't right here...
[20:48] <+Feodor> No matter, Goonie.  We will win big tonight.
[20:48] <+Goonie> why?
[20:48] <+Goonie> whats going on?
[20:48] <+donsig> what happened?
[20:48] <+Goonie> recap?
[20:48] <+Goonie> I was at hockey!
[20:48] <Fionn696_> whats going on?
[20:48] <@Chieftess> The turn chat is in shambles...
[20:48] <+Feodor> We've got the power and the brains.
[20:48] <+donsig> alot of nothing I think
[20:48] <@Octavian_X> Just checking if you were voiced...
[20:48] <+cyc> I voted no of course
[20:48] <+donsig> is anyone playing the game?
[20:49] <+Goonie> oh
[20:49] <@Octavian_X> ME!
[20:49] <+Feodor> Waiting patiently.
[20:49] <@Chieftess> Then give us updates
[20:49] <+donsig> so what is happening?
[20:49] <@Octavian_X> I have been!
[20:49] <+cyc> anarchy!
[20:49] <Fionn696_> lol
[20:49] <@Chieftess> But AWB isn't here...
[20:49] <+donsig> are we upgrading our knights?
[20:49] <@Chieftess> 10:12)
[20:49] <+Feodor> That wasn't on the instructions.
[20:49] <@Octavian_X> I'm done with queues, and was trying to talk to eyrei about the FA deals
[20:49] <@Chieftess> then say that. 10:12)
[20:49] <+donsig> Are we upgrading our knights?
[20:49] <@Octavian_X> sigh....
[20:50] <+Feodor> Not yet.
[20:50] <@Chieftess> Otherwise, we'll think you vanished
[20:50] <+cyc> i followed that Oct
[20:50] <+Feodor> Alliances first, Don.
[20:50] <+donsig> will we be upgrading our knights before we press enter?
[20:50] <+CivGeneral> :)
[20:50] <@Octavian_X> I'm making the deal MA deal w/ Russia against Babs...
[20:50] <+Feodor> 40j didn't want to do that.
[20:50] <+Feodor> Oops, sorry.
[20:50] <+donsig> wait a minute here
[20:50] <+eyrei> sorry, did you need me?
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[20:50] <+cyc> I do like Sanitation Goonie, but this game will hinge on the Panzers
[20:50] <+donsig> is eyrei here?
[20:51] <+Feodor> Yup.
[20:51] <+cyc> eyrei!
[20:51] <+Eklektikos> he is indeed
[20:51] <+donsig> good thing you're paying attention
[20:51] <+donsig> I was about to take over FA :)
[20:51] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[20:51] <@Chieftess> :scared:
[20:51] <+donsig> now let's not be spending gold we need for upgrades
[20:51] <+cyc> :)
[20:51] * +Feodor shivers.
[20:51] <@Chieftess> Remember the LAST time donsig took over? 10;12) 10;12)
[20:51] <@Octavian_X> lol
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[20:52] <@Octavian_X> Didn't we free all the slaves?
[20:52] <+eyrei> was there a question about my t/c instructions?
[20:52] <+cyc> yup
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[20:52] <+donsig> term 2 of DG1
[20:52] <@Octavian_X> We already have a RoP with Russia, eyrei]
[20:52] <+cyc> voice Fionn
[20:52] <+eyrei> do my instructions say to make another?
[20:52] <+eyrei> ;)
[20:52] <+CivGeneral> :)
[20:53] <@Octavian_X> ???
[20:53] <+eyrei> hehe...we should still have one from the alliance against india
[20:53] <@Octavian_X> We do
[20:53] <@Octavian_X> it ends in 10 turns
[20:53] <+Feodor> That's long enough.
[20:53] <+eyrei> ok...we will look at it again when it comes up for renegotiation
[20:54] <+CivGeneral> :)
[20:54] <@Octavian_X> so just ignore the RoP part...
[20:54] <+Feodor> In the meantime, their obsolet units are in China.
[20:54] <+Feodor> And they have a border with the  Babs.
[20:54] <@Octavian_X> Inking the russian deal...
[20:54] <+donsig> those are good instructions eyrei - I'm just not sure about giving Russia military tradition
[20:54] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[20:54] <@Octavian_X> Russia declares war on Babylon!
[20:54] <@Chieftess> Check to see what Russia will give for horses
[20:54] <+cyc> too late donsig
[20:55] <+CivGeneral> hehe :)
[20:55] <@Chieftess> The Fall of Babylon has begun. 10;12)
[20:55] <+eyrei> we need a spot vote on which tech to give the english
[20:55] <@Octavian_X> @CT: World Map for Horses
[20:55] <@Chieftess> Can you get anything else?
[20:55] <+donsig> just a few reservations - not enough to debate the issue though
[20:55] <@Chieftess> They will need horses to fight the rifles and cavalry though
[20:55] <@Octavian_X> They just want our map
[20:56] <+eyrei> this is true
[20:56] <+eyrei> how many extra horses do we have?
[20:56] <@Chieftess> 1
[20:56] <@Octavian_X> 2
[20:56] <@Chieftess> well, 1 to give to russia
[20:56] <+eyrei> are they all well defended?
[20:56] <Fionn696_> we would have more if we connect the horses near lahore
[20:56] <@Octavian_X> Well, yeah
[20:56] <+CivGeneral> :)
[20:56] <+cyc> did you offer the horses?
[20:56] <+Feodor> Chronic labor shortages are crippling our foriegn policy.
[20:57] <@Octavian_X> We can trade our horses for Russian silks
[20:58] <@Chieftess> That would increase happiness.
[20:58] *** FortyJ_afk has 4[morphed] into "FortyJ"
[20:58] * @FortyJ has returned.
[20:58] <@Octavian_X> noting else, though
[20:58] <+CivGeneral> 12Welcome 12Back 40J
[20:58] <@Octavian_X> Hello, Forty
[20:58] <@Chieftess> Can we get any gold out of it too
[20:58] <@Chieftess> ?
[20:58] <@Octavian_X> nope
[20:58] <@Octavian_X> their broke
[20:58] <+Feodor> Hello, 40j
[20:58] <@FortyJ> preturn?
[20:58] <@Chieftess> yes
[20:58] <+donsig> Do we have to give horses to Russia, too?!?
[20:58] <+CivGeneral> yep
[20:58] <+cyc> I like silks
[20:58] <@Chieftess> it was a little chaotic
[20:58] <@Chieftess> It's either that, or Russia gets run over by cossacks
[20:58] <+Feodor> I recall that everyone except the Iro were broke.
[20:58] <+cyc> it will only be for twenty turns donsig
[20:59] <@Octavian_X> So, , silks for horses?
[20:59] <@Chieftess> brb
[20:59] <+eyrei> get their WM too
[20:59] <@Octavian_X> @eyrei: we can't
[20:59] <@Falcon02> donsig... we'll get them with Panzers
[20:59] <@Octavian_X> We'd have to offer more
[20:59] <+eyrei> lol
[20:59] <+eyrei> nevermind then
[20:59] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[20:59] <@Falcon02> assuming they don't strike first
[20:59] <+Feodor> They are easily shot.
[20:59] <+CivGeneral> :)
[21:00] <+cyc> silks it is then
[21:00] <+Feodor> In large numbers.
[21:00] <@Octavian_X> Are we agreed? Silks for horseis to russia?
[21:00] <+cyc> k
[21:00] <+Feodor> k
[21:00] <@Falcon02> huh?
[21:01] <@Falcon02> straight silks for horses deal?
[21:01] <+cyc> say k, Falc
[21:01] <@Octavian_X> @Falc: yes
[21:01] <@Falcon02> what about an MA or was that with the Mil Trad. deal?
[21:01] <+Feodor> Just shake your head vertically.
[21:01] <@Octavian_X> We did that one alreay
[21:01] * @Falcon02 never signs things without reading the fine print
[21:01] <+cyc> trade and F/A said Yes, no?
[21:01] <@Falcon02> okay, go for it
[21:01] <@Octavian_X> (CT)
[21:02] <@Octavian_X> Silks for horses?
[21:02] * +Feodor hands Falcon the office magnifier.
[21:02] <@Falcon02> now let's hope they don't turn the Cossaks against us
[21:02] <+Feodor> Aye.
[21:02] <+cyc> I wanted the gpt deal
[21:02] <+CivGeneral> :)
[21:02] <@Octavian_X> they won't give us any gold
[21:03] <+Feodor> No one has any money.
[21:03] <+cyc> never mind
[21:03] <@Octavian_X> I am about to make the silks for horses deal.  Speak now, or forever hold your peace...
[21:03] <@Chieftess> back
[21:03] <+eyrei> FA has no objections
[21:03] <Fionn696_> speaking ;)
[21:04] <+eyrei> at least the FA leader doesn't;)
[21:04] <@Chieftess> no objections here
[21:04] <@Octavian_X> Deal done
[21:04] * @Falcon02 isn't it's the Military's job to hold the peace, make sure it doesn't get out to see the light too much ;) j/k
[21:04] <@Octavian_X> On to the NEXT FA deal...
[21:05] <+CivGeneral> :)
[21:05] <@Octavian_X> This is gonna be a looooong night...
[21:05] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[21:05] <+Feodor> Pacifists.  Can't live with them, but you can shoot them.
[21:05] <@FortyJ> nothing wrong with pacifists...
[21:05] <@Octavian_X> lol
[21:05] <+Feodor> I'm one myself.
[21:05] <Fionn696_> hey im a pacifist
[21:05] <+Feodor> In between wars.
[21:06] <@Octavian_X> Making backroom deal with Hiawatha...
[21:06] <Fionn696_> i promote build time
[21:06] <+Feodor> We need some.
[21:06] <Fionn696_> preaching to the choir on that one
[21:06] <@Falcon02> there is something wrong with those called "Peace at any Costers"  
[21:06] <@Falcon02> IMHO
[21:06] <@Octavian_X> Deal signed, Hiawatha declares war on Babylon
[21:06] <+cyc> good
[21:06] <@Falcon02> good old Hiawatha, new we had him for something
[21:07] <+Feodor> Babylon is doomed.
[21:07] <+eyrei> i doubt it
[21:07] <+cyc> hehe
[21:07] <@Octavian_X> Calling up Mr. Lincoln...
[21:07] <+eyrei> but this should keep them off our backs for awhile
[21:07] <+Feodor> Just as soon as we scratch up some cash for upgrades . . . kpow!
[21:08] <@Falcon02> we going for Democracy with the Romans?
[21:08] <+Feodor> And the slaves?
[21:08] <@Falcon02> of course
[21:08] <+Feodor> Wonderfully ironic deal.
[21:08] <@Octavian_X> @eyrei: Ummm,,,  America won't accep the deal you listed...
[21:08] <@Octavian_X> we give WM, 4gpt and Ro is a no-go
[21:08] <@Falcon02> what?
[21:08] <+eyrei> strange
[21:08] <+cyc> Democracy and the slaves...makes sense
[21:08] <+eyrei> is it close?
[21:08] <@Falcon02> Eyrei... did you mess up the results?
[21:08] <@Octavian_X> The FA advisor 'doubts'
[21:09] <+eyrei> i don't know...something may have changed because of the two deals we just signed though
[21:09] <@Chieftess> probably
[21:09] <+Feodor> A leak somewhere.
[21:09] <@Falcon02> isn't the FA Advisor's name Thomas? ;)
[21:09] <+cyc> we just made a deal with their enemy
[21:09] <@Chieftess> The origanal deal works on mine
[21:09] <@Falcon02> ahhh
[21:09] <@Falcon02> that could do it
[21:09] <+eyrei> add a couple gpt to the deal and see what the advisor says
[21:10] <@Octavian_X> Ichecking...
[21:10] <@Chieftess> try 5
[21:10] <@Chieftess> Are you sure we're offering 4gpt, WM, and ROP?
[21:10] <@Octavian_X> yes
[21:10] <+cyc> you didn't make the deal CT
[21:10] <@Octavian_X> america now wants 13gpt instead of 4...
[21:10] <+Eklektikos> just tell ol' Linc that you "did not have diplomatic relations with that woman" ;)
[21:10] <+eyrei> gah!
[21:10] <@Octavian_X> lol
[21:10] <+Feodor> lol
[21:11] <+eyrei> hmmm
[21:11] <+cyc> bye aba
[21:11] <+cyc> abe
[21:11] <+Feodor> Abba?
[21:11] <+eyrei> how much gpt are we making right now?
[21:11] <+eyrei> about 80?
[21:11] <@Octavian_X> 89
[21:11] <+cyc> 84?
[21:11] <+Feodor> High bookkeeping standards . . .
[21:11] <@Octavian_X> greedy pigs...
[21:11] <+cyc> throwing darts
[21:11] <+eyrei> do they have military tradition?
[21:11] <@Octavian_X> they have cavalry
[21:12] <+Feodor> I hope someone shoots him in the head.
[21:12] <+cyc> i want his hat first
[21:12] <+eyrei> is our military still larger according to our military advisor?
[21:12] <@Octavian_X> I know this man named Booth...
[21:12] <+Feodor> He won't be wearing the hat at the theater.
[21:12] <@Octavian_X> @eyrie: our militaries are the same size
[21:12] <+eyrei> wow...how the hell did that happen?
[21:13] <+Feodor> Best keep an eye on that turkey.
[21:13] <@Octavian_X> ya got me...
[21:13] <+cyc> he heard about us...
[21:13] <+Feodor> We've got a rep.
[21:13] <+eyrei> alright, then we might want to pay more to bring them in on our side since they could threaten our eastern border
[21:13] <@Octavian_X> Going for the 13gpt, then?
[21:13] <@Falcon02> who we talking about? Abe?
[21:13] <+eyrei> we will need a spot vote for the extra 9gpt then
[21:13] <@Octavian_X> @falc: yes
[21:13] <+cyc> yes abe
[21:14] <+Feodor> yes
[21:14] <@Falcon02> hmm...
[21:14] <@Chieftess> hmm...
[21:14] <@Falcon02> he'll be helpful in fighting the Babs in the East
[21:14] <+eyrei> falc, somehow they caught up to us in military strength
[21:14] * @Octavian_X 1,4[8,4 Spot Vote 1,4] Shall we sign the American allinace for 9gpt extra?
[21:14] <+cyc> hopefully they will save Leningrado
[21:14] <+eyrei> i am more worried about keeping them from attacking us
[21:14] <@Falcon02> we've gotta fix that before our little war
[21:14] <+Feodor> I'm more worried about a back stab
[21:14] <+eyrei> wait a sec
[21:14] <@Octavian_X> ?
[21:14] <@Falcon02> ?
[21:14] <@Chieftess> It's still showing strong here
[21:14] <+eyrei> do we have upgrades lined up for preturn?
[21:14] <@Falcon02> yup
[21:15] <+eyrei> a lot of them?
[21:15] <+cyc> vote = YES
[21:15] <@Falcon02> mostly Cavs
[21:15] * +CivGeneral thinks about the vote
[21:15] <@Falcon02> 2 pikes in the East
[21:15] <@Falcon02> not Padma
[21:15] <+Feodor> vote = yes
[21:15] <+CivGeneral> ( ° Dark Style Pro II ° 12http://www.the-afterdark.net )
[21:15] <+CivGeneral> yes
[21:15] <@Chieftess> How can we be average? It's 1000AD, and it's showing we're strong.
[21:15] <+eyrei> i am wondering if they just barely caught up because we have not upgraded to cavalry yet
[21:15] <@Chieftess> ...Oct - are you SURE you have the correct save?
[21:16] <+CivGeneral> Vote = Yes
[21:16] <@Octavian_X> yes, CT
[21:16] <@Octavian_X> 1000ad
[21:16] <@Chieftess> But, that means things still happen during our turn
[21:16] <@Chieftess> weird
[21:16] <@Octavian_X> yeah...
[21:16] <@Falcon02> I see that we're stronger on my save
[21:16] <@Falcon02> okay... how did FA weaken us?!?!?!?!
[21:16] <@Octavian_X> lol
[21:16] <+eyrei> how many cavalry upgrades do we have planned for preturn?
[21:16] <+cyc> maybe they did maintenance
[21:16] <@Octavian_X> Maybe build queues are taken into account...
[21:17] <@Chieftess> Oct, are you SURE you're using Vanilla Civ3?
[21:17] <@Octavian_X> Yes
[21:17] <+Feodor> It's because we have no cannon . ..
[21:17] <+cyc> are you on an AMD, Oct?
[21:17] <@Octavian_X> nope
[21:17] <@Octavian_X> Though this computer is five years old...
[21:17] <+eyrei> this is very strange
[21:18] <@Falcon02> about 18+ cav upgrades
[21:18] <+cyc> let's not go overboard
[21:18] <@Octavian_X> I've got an idea
[21:18] <@Chieftess> Should we test the deals and strenght on ours? but that would be a replay
[21:18] <+donsig> we had enough to do 26
[21:18] <@Falcon02> :-D
[21:18] <@Octavian_X> I saved the game before all the FA deals in case I was disconnected
[21:18] <+Feodor> Stick to the upgrades close to the front.
[21:18] <@Falcon02> that makes me happy
[21:18] <+eyrei> alright, lets do those upgrades first, and then check military strength again
[21:18] <@Octavian_X> ok
[21:18] <@Octavian_X> skipping FA and Trade in Favor of military
[21:19] <@Falcon02> ok
[21:19] <+Feodor> Will a stronger military help our negotiations.?
[21:19] <@Falcon02> maybe
[21:19] <+cyc> possibly
[21:19] <@Octavian_X> @Falc: should I carry out DZ's instructions first?
[21:19] <@Falcon02> no
[21:20] <@Falcon02> go through mine, it tells you what in DZ's instructions to do
[21:20] * +Feodor chuckles to himself.
[21:20] <@Octavian_X> ok
[21:20] <@Chieftess> Like Oct said.. this is gonna be a LOOOONG night!
[21:20] * @Octavian_X gets some coffee and a doughnut ready...
[21:20] * +Feodor guffaws to himself, putting a hand over his mouth.
[21:21] <@Chieftess> I think that spammer was a bad omen...
[21:21] <@Chieftess> read the staff forum eyrei
[21:21] * @Falcon02 is planning to go to bed around 12, maybe 1
[21:22] * +Feodor is planning to watch the Daily Show at 10.
[21:22] * +Feodor is glad he doesn't have a position of responsibility.
[21:23] <@Octavian_X> Falc: should I move the knights in Andro to daperdan to upgrade?
[21:23] <@Falcon02> Yes
[21:24] <@Octavian_X> dammit...  I hit the damn spacebar...
[21:24] <+Feodor> Turn over?
[21:24] <@Chieftess> this is gonna be a long night...
[21:24] <@Octavian_X> Can the Knightmares be upgraded in Andro?
[21:24] <@Octavian_X> The turn isn' over!
[21:24] <@Falcon02> WHAT?!?!?!
[21:24] <+Feodor> Good.
[21:24] <@Octavian_X> I just skipped a knight accidentially
[21:25] <@Falcon02> ARG!!
[21:25] <@Octavian_X> Bad day, very bad day...
[21:25] <@Chieftess> Just page me if you need me. I'll be in the forums...
[21:25] <@Falcon02> yes, CT.... it was a bad omen
[21:25] <+Feodor> Fortunately, not one of the important knights.
[21:25] <@Chieftess> I have the log, but I deleted that part
[21:25] <@Octavian_X> good
[21:25] <@Octavian_X> mine's fractured
[21:25] <@Octavian_X> @falc: sorry 'bout that...
[21:26] <+donsig> well at least you didn't press enter
[21:26] <+Feodor> That's what happend to the French in 1940.
[21:26] <@Falcon02> Feodor, actualy the Knightmares are one of the more important knights... they're elites, and once upgraded their GL creating ability is renewed, I believe
[21:26] * @Octavian_X can see why he never wins those presidential elections...
[21:26] <@Chieftess> or shift enter
[21:27] <@Falcon02> Donsig, space does the same as enter, I've done it many a time by accident
[21:27] <+Feodor> But doesn't upgrading demote them to veterans.
[21:27] <@Falcon02> 'I don't think so
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[21:27] <@Octavian_X> crap...
[21:27] <@Octavian_X> netsplit detected...
[21:27] <+Feodor> They went out for a smoke.
[21:27] <@Falcon02> ohh great
[21:28] <+cyc> i think upgrading does make them vets...
[21:28] <@Falcon02> Feodor, I'm not positive though, never really paid much attention
[21:28] <@Falcon02> see...
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[21:28] <@Chieftess> ouch...
[21:28] <+Feodor> Easy come, easy go.
[21:28] <+cyc> wb
[21:28] <+CivGeneral> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' plus thingie!! Cool :D 3°
[21:28] <@Chieftess> that definately was a bad omen
[21:28] <@Chieftess> very bad...
[21:28] <+CivGeneral> yep, disconnections
[21:28] <+CivGeneral> Cyc: thanks
[21:29] <@Octavian_X> maybe we should quit while we're ahead...
[21:29] <+cyc> superstitions
[21:29] <+Feodor> I gotta disconnect the computer for a half-hour, myself.  I'll check in later.  Bye.
[21:29] <@Octavian_X> upgrading the rest of the knights
[21:29] <@Falcon02> CT... go ahead and do some research and DOS attack the omen bringer ;)
[21:29] <+cyc> cya
[21:29] <+CivGeneral> :)
[21:29] <@Octavian_X> see ya, Feodor...
[21:29] <+Feodor> Don't forget Traders REst and Kagoshima.
[21:29] <@Falcon02> see ya Feodor
[21:29] <@Chieftess> hehe
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[21:30] * @Falcon02 needs to thanks Feodor
[21:30] <@Falcon02> I missed those knights in Traders :-)
[21:31] <@Falcon02> Oct... put them on the Upgrade list please
[21:31] <+eyrei> yes, upgrading most definately demotes elites to vets
[21:31] <@Chieftess> I'll moderate in a minimized window and watch the demogame. 10:12)
[21:31] <@Falcon02> ok... see the General can be wrong at times
[21:31] <@Chieftess> watching while my modem downloads the page...
[21:32] <@Falcon02> CT... you need broadband
[21:32] <@Octavian_X> The knights of dapperdan are upgreaded...
[21:32] <@Octavian_X> see?  I can't even spell tonight...
[21:32] <+cyc> i can spell tonight...
[21:32] <@Chieftess> I just thought of something else... remember that omen? And back in October? Elucidus was just in the other channel 30 minutes ago..! :eek:
[21:33] <@Falcon02> can't really spell 90% of the time
[21:33] <@Octavian_X> lol
[21:33] * @Falcon02 was tempted to add spelling errors into that but I'm too lazy
[21:34] <@Octavian_X> upgrading Lenin's pikes...
[21:34] <@Octavian_X> Before I do that, I need to run to the little Vice President's room...
[21:35] * @Falcon02 wonders if it says that on the door
[21:37] <@Octavian_X> Actually...
[21:37] <@Octavian_X> I'm back
[21:37] <+cyc> I thought you were going to say, no...but I keep the election results by the toilet
[21:38] <@Chieftess> O_o
[21:38] <@Octavian_X> lol
[21:38] <@Falcon02> 5Laugh 5Out 5Loud
[21:38] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[21:39] <@Octavian_X> Following DZ's upgrade instructions...
[21:39] <@Falcon02> okay... let's get the discussion out of the toilet and get back to the DG
[21:39] <+cyc> :)
[21:39] <@Octavian_X> lol
[21:39] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
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[21:40] <+DX_Zoi> anybody home?
[21:41] <@Falcon02> hey DZ
[21:41] <@Octavian_X> no
[21:41] <+cyc> hey dz
[21:41] <+DX_Zoi> is the chat still on?
[21:41] <@Falcon02> you missed the good part too :-)
[21:41] <@Falcon02> yes
[21:41] <+cyc> yup
[21:41] <+DX_Zoi> what happened?
[21:41] <@Octavian_X> Falc: It'll take the burrow knights 2 turns to get to Padmativa
[21:41] <@Octavian_X> A chinese spear blocks the road
[21:41] <@Falcon02> upgrade 'em there
[21:41] <@Octavian_X> in the burrow?
[21:42] <@Falcon02> yeah
[21:42] <@Octavian_X> gotcha
[21:42] <+DX_Zoi> why?
[21:42] <+cyc> road blocked
[21:42] <+DX_Zoi> they should get closer!
[21:42] <+DX_Zoi> oh ok
[21:42] <@Falcon02> and Cav's have the 3 movement while knights have 2
[21:42] <+cyc> yup
[21:42] <+DX_Zoi> falc...what was "the good part"?
[21:42] <@Octavian_X> toilets....
[21:43] <+cyc> our discussion went down the drain
[21:43] <@Falcon02> Octavian's bodily functions and wording for his absence initiated a discussion
[21:43] <@Falcon02> @cyc lol
[21:43] <@Octavian_X> Padma's knights upgraded in Lenin's town
[21:44] <@Chieftess> What about the pikes?
[21:44] <@Falcon02> I think those were first
[21:44] <@Falcon02> am I right?
[21:44] <@Octavian_X> yes, they were
[21:44] <+DX_Zoi> this is still preturn I take it?
[21:45] <@Octavian_X> yup
[21:45] * @Falcon02 needs caffine....
[21:45] * @Falcon02 doesn't remember typing "am I right?"
[21:45] <@Falcon02> yes DZ
[21:45] <@Octavian_X> lol
[21:46] * @Falcon02 now has a good caffinated Coke
[21:46] <@Octavian_X> Military done (for the moment).  Rechecking American deal
[21:47] <@Falcon02> you upgrade in the West?
[21:47] <+Eklektikos> ok, waaaaaaay past time for bed. G'night all :)
[21:47] <@Octavian_X> night, EK
[21:47] <@Falcon02> good night Ekl
[21:48] <+cyc> cya
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[21:48] * @Falcon02 wishes the world was flat... 1 time zone
[21:48] <@Octavian_X> dammit, no change in the American deal
[21:48] <@Octavian_X> no mil change, either
[21:48] <@Falcon02> thought that would pose some interesting scientific problems
[21:48] <+cyc> don't worry about it
[21:49] * @Falcon02 realizes the problem
[21:49] <@Octavian_X> I'd wait a turn...
[21:49] <@Falcon02> our FA friend and our MA friend seem to disagree
[21:49] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[21:49] <@Falcon02> FA says same MA says we're better
[21:49] <@Octavian_X> Does the original save have America polite with us?
[21:50] <@Chieftess> Maybe it's because we had a 1 tech lead over the russians?
[21:50] * @Falcon02 bets they forgot to fix the FA when they fixed the MA advisor to include tech and ability
[21:50] <+cyc> think so oct
[21:50] <@Falcon02> no, Annoyeed
[21:50] * @Falcon02 is looking at abe now
[21:50] <+cyc> k
[21:50] <+DX_Zoi> annoyed and unimpressed
[21:50] * @Octavian_X glares at Abe...
[21:50] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[21:51] <+CivGeneral> Hi DZ
[21:51] <+cyc> is he in the theatre?
[21:51] * @Falcon02 thinks blue just isn't his color
[21:51] * @Chieftess glares at at the omen - 4¬_¬
[21:51] <+DX_Zoi> Hey CG
[21:51] <+donsig> OK, I'm tired.  gotta go
[21:51] <+donsig> good luck
[21:51] <@Falcon02> good night Donsig
[21:51] <+donsig> bye
[21:51] <+cyc> cya
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[21:51] <+DX_Zoi> nite donsig
[21:51] <@Octavian_X> bye
[21:51] <+CivGeneral> Night Donsig
[21:51] <@Octavian_X> three people too late...
[21:51] <@Chieftess> yep, annoyed and cranky
[21:51] <+DX_Zoi> he's too fast for us
[21:51] <+eyrei> alright, so we need a spot vote i guess
[21:51] <+cyc> k
[21:51] <+DX_Zoi> put it up
[21:51] <@Falcon02> wait a turn or no
[21:52] <+cyc> is the deal the same?
[21:52] * @Octavian_X 1,4[8,4 Spot Vote 1,4] Shall we sign a Military allaicne with Amer against Bab for WM, RoP, and 13gpt?
[21:52] <+eyrei> i don't want to wait, because the babs may buy the americans
[21:52] <+eyrei> vote = yes
[21:52] <@FortyJ> Yes!
[21:52] <+cyc> vote = YES
[21:52] <@Chieftess> yes
[21:52] <+DX_Zoi> yes
[21:52] * @Octavian_X 1,4[8,4 Vote Count 1,4] 5-0
[21:52] <@Falcon02> vote = yes
[21:52] <@Chieftess> You know, I think we should go with the most expensive treaties first.
[21:53] <+CivGeneral> vote = yes
[21:53] <@Falcon02> 6/9 majority wins
[21:53] <+DX_Zoi> see if that puts a smile on Abe's face
[21:53] <@Chieftess> I think the AI just might take a value in your treaties
[21:53] * @Octavian_X 8,9[1,9 Measure Passes 8,9]
[21:53] <@Octavian_X> Making the deal...
[21:53] * @Falcon02 doesn't wanna see Abe smile
[21:53] <@Chieftess> Maybe it's a glitch... hmm...
[21:53] * @Falcon02 wants to see him on a pike... but that's later... ;)
[21:53] <@Chieftess> Since we were strong before
[21:53] <@Octavian_X> lol
[21:54] <@Octavian_X> You're guess is as good as mine...
[21:54] <@Falcon02> CT I figured it out
[21:54] <+DX_Zoi> we could catch him in a good mood
[21:54] <@Octavian_X> (Note to self: Do FA deals first....)
[21:54] <@Chieftess> Maybe more wars are seen at thining your troops out?
[21:54] <@Falcon02> the FA says same MA says stronger
[21:54] <+cyc> same amount of men, only stronger?
[21:54] <@Falcon02> Check the Save
[21:54] <+eyrei> who knows...
[21:54] <@Octavian_X> I uploaded a save earlier in case I left
[21:54] * @Falcon02 bets when Fraxis set the MA to include unit ability they ignored the FA
[21:55] <@Octavian_X> should be Fanatika1000ad(2)
[21:55] <@Octavian_X> on the fileserver
[21:55] * @Falcon02 is looking at the original save
[21:55] <@Octavian_X> check that old one...
[21:55] <@Falcon02> they have different stories in my own save
[21:55] <@Falcon02> that's what I'm saying
[21:55] <+DX_Zoi> as is DXZ
[21:55] <@Chieftess> I'll have to check that out in PTW to see if it's still there...
[21:55] <@Octavian_X> I did that one right after I finished the queues and before the Russian deal
[21:55] <@Falcon02> MA says we're stronger, but at the same time FA says we're about the same
[21:55] <@Octavian_X> hmmm....
[21:56] <@Octavian_X> Accepting the deal in 1 minute...
[21:56] <@Octavian_X> objections?
[21:56] * @Falcon02 bet's his digital counterpart in Oct's game says we're stonger
[21:56] <@Falcon02> no objections here
[21:57] <@Octavian_X> Deal's done
[21:57] <@Falcon02> is Abe pleased?
[21:57] <@Octavian_X> He's polite now
[21:57] <@Chieftess> I think as a general rule, next time we should do the more expensive deals first.
[21:57] <@Octavian_X> One more FA deal...
[21:57] <@Chieftess> It might be just like tech trades
[21:57] <@Octavian_X> yup
[21:58] <+CivGeneral> :)
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[21:58] <@Chieftess> Maybe America saw 2 civs at war, and figured that it'll need more units faster or something
[21:58] <@Falcon02> CT, I think it's cause we're at war with the Iro
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[21:58] <@Octavian_X> Hello
[21:58] <+DX_Zoi> hi feodor
[21:58] <+CivGeneral> 12Welcome 12Back Feodor
[21:59] <@Chieftess> We should have taken that into account
[21:59] <+Feodor> What's happening.
[21:59] <@Falcon02> I mean the US is at war with the Iro
[21:59] <+eyrei> hehe
[21:59] * @Octavian_X 1,4[8,4 Spot Vote 1,4] Do we give England banking, physics, or metallurgy for the Military alliance?
[21:59] <+CivGeneral> What Turn are we in?
[21:59] <@Octavian_X> pre
[21:59] <+CivGeneral> still
[21:59] <+DX_Zoi> DXZ tips his hat to the one with longer posts than him
[21:59] <@Chieftess> physics
[21:59] <+Feodor> brb
[21:59] <@Falcon02> physics
[21:59] <+cyc> metallurgy
[21:59] <@FortyJ> Metallurgy
[21:59] <+eyrei> physics
[22:00] <+CivGeneral> Vote = Physics
[22:00] * @Octavian_X 1,4[8,4 Vote Count 1,4] 0-4-2
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[22:00] <@Chieftess> eyrei - I think you should take note... look at who's at war with whom when deciding who to sign a treaty with first.
[22:00] <+DX_Zoi> why not banking?
[22:00] <+cyc> democracy
[22:00] <+DX_Zoi> oh forget it
[22:00] <+eyrei> yeah...i will do that next time
[22:00] <@Octavian_X> vote = physics
[22:00] <@Falcon02> we don't have demo yet
[22:00] <+eyrei> banking is a very expensive tech
[22:00] <@Octavian_X> They could research it, tohugh
[22:01] <@Octavian_X> Vote passes in favor of physics...
[22:01] <+DX_Zoi> eyrei, more than physics?
[22:01] <+CivGeneral> :)
[22:01] <+eyrei> yes
[22:01] <+CivGeneral> Excellent
[22:02] <@Octavian_X> England is now at war with Babylon.  :D
[22:02] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:03] <+DX_Zoi> whats so funny, CG?
[22:03] <+CivGeneral> DZ: [23:01] <@Octavian_X> England is now at war with Babylon.  :D
[22:03] <+CivGeneral> :rolleyes:
[22:04] <+CivGeneral> We are getting the Babs pounded by the other civs
[22:04] <@Octavian_X> Good
[22:04] <@Falcon02> on to Rome... I want Democracy for later
[22:04] <+CivGeneral> :)
[22:05] <+DX_Zoi> falc...did we get those workers?
[22:05] <@Octavian_X> On to trade instructions!
[22:05] <@Falcon02> not yet
[22:05] <+DX_Zoi> or is that Rome?
[22:05] <@Falcon02> just did FA for the alliances
[22:05] <+DX_Zoi> gotcha
[22:05] <@Falcon02> yes it's rome
[22:05] <+CivGeneral> yea
[22:05] <@Octavian_X> ok
[22:06] *** ChanServ 4[deops] Octavian_X
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[22:06] <+Octavian_X> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
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[22:07] <+Octavian_X> What the hell?
[22:07] *** Falcon02 4[ops] Octavian_X
[22:07] <@Octavian_X> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
[22:07] <@Chieftess> ?
[22:07] *** ChanServ 4[voices] Falcon02
[22:07] <+CivGeneral> ?
[22:07] <@Falcon02> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[22:07] <@Chieftess> :scared:
[22:07] <@Falcon02> huh?
[22:07] <+CivGeneral> What the...?
[22:07] * @Falcon02 gets out his sword and searches for Gremlins
[22:07] <@FortyJ> looks like nickserv just rebooted
[22:07] <@Octavian_X> This must by Babylonian work...
[22:07] <@Chieftess> Why not a musket?
[22:07] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:07] <@Falcon02> or Indian
[22:07] <+cyc> must be those "bad omens"...
[22:08] <@Chieftess> ...
[22:08] <+CivGeneral> THe Omens 
[22:08] <@Chieftess> If you were here before 8:45pm...
[22:08] <+cyc> what did the spammer say?
[22:08] <@Chieftess> They'---re--- baaaa--cckkk....
[22:08] <@Chieftess> not that
[22:08] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:09] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:09] <+cyc> evil stuff, huh?
[22:09] <@Chieftess> more like what he (attempted) to post before he flooded...
[22:09] <@Chieftess> 4 words: WWII Germany
[22:09] <@Octavian_X> O, that...
[22:09] <@Chieftess> 2 more words: a flag (although in the wrong direction...)
[22:10] <+CivGeneral> Yep, that can-o-worms
[22:10] <@Falcon02> formerly a sign of good luck before Hitler got a hold of it
[22:10] <@Octavian_X> So we are carrying out the Roman Democracy trade?
[22:10] <@Falcon02> please
[22:10] <+CivGeneral> Back to the DG
[22:10] <@Octavian_X> CT?
[22:10] <@Chieftess> that spawned CDG... and Elucidus was in CFC.. anyway...
[22:10] <@Chieftess> Meanwhile... In the demogame...
[22:10] <@Chieftess> #civfanatics that is
[22:10] <@Falcon02> CDG?
[22:10] <@Chieftess> eh em...
[22:11] <@Chieftess> cdgroup
[22:11] <@Chieftess> back to the demogame
[22:11] <@Falcon02> ok
[22:11] <@Falcon02> Oct... Rome
[22:11] <@Octavian_X> Getting Caesar on the videophone
[22:11] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:11] <@Falcon02> your name sakes
[22:11] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:11] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:11] <@Chieftess> haha
[22:11] * @Falcon02 feels like doing something different
[22:12] <@Octavian_X> getting our favorite type of government from Rome...
[22:12] *** Falcon02 has 4[morphed] into "Horus"
[22:12] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:12] <@Octavian_X> ???
[22:12] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:12] <@Chieftess> ?
[22:12] <@Chieftess> oh, remember curufinwe? 10:12)
[22:12] <@Horus> not gonna abandon Falcon easily
[22:12] <@Horus> yeah
[22:13] * @Chieftess forgets the quotes, but wants to go back to the demogame
[22:13] * +CivGeneral remembers Curufinwe a little
[22:13] <+cyc> supercalifragilisticexspeealidoetious!
[22:13] * @Octavian_X too...
[22:14] <@Chieftess> progress?
[22:14] <@Octavian_X> deal done
[22:14] <+DX_Zoi> cyc, that sounds quite precocious
[22:15] <@Octavian_X> We know democracy!
[22:15] <+cyc> :)
[22:15] <+CivGeneral> Yes :)
[22:15] <@Chieftess> 10:12D
[22:15] <@Octavian_X> ironic, ain't it
[22:15] <@Chieftess> Now we can have red tape and take even longer!
[22:15] <+DX_Zoi> end the chat and switch  :)
[22:15] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:15] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:15] <@Chieftess> 2 hour preturn...
[22:15] * @Horus is reminded of Maxis jokes in Sim City
[22:15] <+DX_Zoi> awwwww......I was serious..........
[22:16] * +CivGeneral watches as a roll of red tape rolls by
[22:16] <@Chieftess> haha
[22:16] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:16] <@Horus> City Hall... Miles of Red tape : 19203
[22:16] <@Octavian_X> I had higher...  :D
[22:16] <+CivGeneral> Falcon02: Let me guess, SC3k ;)
[22:16] <@Horus> no it's SC4
[22:16] <@Horus> it was in SC3k too
[22:16] <+CivGeneral> Falcon02: IT was in SC3k
[22:16] <@Horus> I think
[22:17] <@Octavian_X> They couldn't come up with a new one?
[22:17] <@Chieftess> ehem...
[22:17] <@Chieftess> Meanwhile... In the demogame...
[22:17] * @Horus remembers seeing red tape somewhere in SC4... of course this ain't the place to argue this
[22:17] <@Octavian_X> awww....
[22:17] <+CivGeneral> awww...
[22:17] <@Chieftess> beware the bad omen....
[22:17] * @Chieftess says in a spooky voice. ;)
[22:17] <+cyc> SC addicts
[22:18] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:18] <@Horus> as my Brother Said "SC isn't a game... it's an addiction"
[22:18] <@Chieftess> 10-12_10-
[22:18] <@Octavian_X> @Falc: what about the Cavalry in Kyoto?
[22:18] <@Horus> anyway... DEMOGAME
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[22:19] <+CivGeneral> bye Fionn
[22:19] <@Horus> hmm... I didn't really think about that guy...
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[22:19] *** ChanServ 4[voices] Fionn696_
[22:19] <+Fionn696_> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[22:19] <+CivGeneral> 12Welcome 12Back Fionn
[22:19] <+cyc> he's back...
[22:19] <@Octavian_X> Hello, Fionn
[22:20] <+Fionn696_> hola
[22:20] <@Horus> we got ROP with Iro?
[22:20] <@Horus> 5Welcome 5Back fionn
[22:20] <+DX_Zoi> hey Fionn
[22:20] <+Fionn696_> and no im still not spending any money :)
[22:20] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:20] <@Octavian_X> Falc: that cavalry can get to Ibizia this turn
[22:20] <@Horus> come one... tell me you wouldn't love to have a gold plated toilet seat...
[22:21] <+Fionn696_> nope
[22:21] <+DX_Zoi> we should build up troops b4 we attack. falc, you agree?
[22:21] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:21] <+cyc> I wouldn't love to have a gold plated toilet seat
[22:21] <@Horus> we got an ROP with the Iro right?
[22:21] <+DX_Zoi> i mean horus
[22:21] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:21] <@Horus> 5Laugh 5Out 5Loud :-) yes we should build up before an attack
[22:22] <@Horus> cyc... it would need a built in seat warmer of course
[22:22] <+cyc> definitely
[22:22] <+CivGeneral> yep
[22:22] * @Horus is thinking about scouting out Larsa
[22:22] <@Horus> with the Cav
[22:23] <@Octavian_X> ok
[22:23] <+cyc> do we have the explorers?
[22:23] <@Octavian_X> no
[22:23] <@Horus> no
[22:23] <@Chieftess> Did you see my explorer plan?
[22:23] <@Octavian_X> nope
[22:23] <@Horus> if you go the the mount East of that Horse it would be a good scouting point
[22:24] <+CivGeneral> :)
[22:24] <@Horus> I wanna see what they have in Larsa
[22:24] <@Octavian_X> ok
[22:24] <@Horus> if we just see a pike, we may wanna make a move now
[22:24] <@Horus> or... Soon
[22:24] <@Horus> not "now"
[22:25] * @Horus thinks Horus feels weird on him
[22:25] *** Horus has 4[morphed] into "Falcon"
[22:25] *** Falcon has 4[morphed] into "Guest77785"
[22:25] *** Guest77785 has 4[morphed] into "Falcon02"
[22:25] <+cyc> Horus, do I know you?
[22:25] <+CivGeneral> :)
[22:25] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:25] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:25] <@Chieftess> 10-12_10-
[22:25] <@Octavian_X> Going on scouting mission...
[22:26] * @Chieftess wishes this stayed rated PG-13. ;)
[22:26] <@Octavian_X> is that a final order?
[22:26] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:26] * @Falcon02 is trying to figure out when it went R rated?
[22:26] <+cyc> DG1
[22:26] <@Falcon02> or pushed the 13 rating... anyway
[22:26] <@Octavian_X> to the mountains?
[22:27] <@Falcon02> yes Oct, go on the scouting Mission
[22:27] <+CivGeneral> :)
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[22:27] <@Chieftess> hi
[22:27] <@Chieftess> This is the demogame
[22:27] <@Octavian_X> IT's a rifle
[22:28] <+CivGeneral> Hi GarretSidzaka
[22:28] <@Chieftess> We're going on a scouting mission right now. 10:12)
[22:28] <+GarretSidzaka> sup all
[22:28] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:28] <@Falcon02> vet or reg?
[22:28] <@Octavian_X> vet
[22:28] <+GarretSidzaka> played civ for years
[22:28] <@Chieftess> Octavian_X is playing the save, since FortyJ wasn't here at the start.. or availible
[22:28] <+GarretSidzaka> new to demo game
[22:28] <@Falcon02> okay
[22:28] <@Falcon02> drat
[22:28] <@Chieftess> What terrain is it on/
[22:28] <@Chieftess> ?
[22:28] <@Falcon02> well, no easy captuer there
[22:29] <@Falcon02> plains
[22:29] <@Falcon02> well, semi easy
[22:29] <@Octavian_X> yup
[22:29] <@Falcon02> just not AS easy
[22:29] <@Chieftess> 6*35%
[22:29] <@Octavian_X> Besides, Larsa's a city...
[22:29] <@Chieftess> 8.1 defense
[22:29] <@Falcon02> did you switch Fuku?
[22:29] <@Chieftess> 9.6 then
[22:29] <@Falcon02> Fukushima
[22:29] <@Octavian_X> yup
[22:30] <@Falcon02> good
[22:30] <@Chieftess> Be careful of the lettering falc. 10;12)
[22:30] <@Falcon02> go ahead and move knights in the region there
[22:30] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:30] <@Octavian_X> ok]
[22:30] <+DX_Zoi> CT....wait til he shortens it to 3 letters
[22:30] * @Falcon02 noticed that CT.. realized that was slightly worse than just the first 3
[22:30] <@Chieftess> Just try saying "excuse me" in Japanese...
[22:30] <+CivGeneral> ?
[22:30] <@Chieftess> shittsurei...
[22:30] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:31] <@Falcon02> love those japs
[22:31] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:31] <+CivGeneral> O_O
[22:31] <@Falcon02> baka baka
[22:31] <@Octavian_X> moving the knights near larsa...
[22:31] <@Chieftess> I had to keep myself from laughing when I first saw that...
[22:31] <+CivGeneral> k
[22:31] <+DX_Zoi> what do you have against shima anyway?
[22:31] <@Chieftess> anyway...
[22:31] <@Chieftess> knights?
[22:31] <@Octavian_X> yup
[22:31] <@Falcon02> the Baka was a Japanese Suicide plane, named by the Americans, Baka means Fool in Japanese
[22:31] <@Chieftess> Why not cav?
[22:31] <@Falcon02> wiat Oct
[22:32] <@Octavian_X> ok
[22:32] <@Falcon02> move the Knights in the region of Fukushima to Fukushima to be upgraded
[22:32] <@Octavian_X> ok]
[22:32] * +CivGeneral hears snikering in the background
[22:32] * @Falcon02 was a little worried you were sending them to Larsa
[22:32] <@Octavian_X> not to worry
[22:32] <@Octavian_X> leave the Kyoto knights alone, though?
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[22:33] <@Falcon02> hold on
[22:33] <+CivGeneral> 12Welcome 12Back Feodor :)
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[22:33] <+DX_Zoi> feodor is back
[22:33] <+Feodor> Lock and load?
[22:33] <@Falcon02> how much gold we have?
[22:33] <+CivGeneral> Hmm, Disconnects. Must be work of the Babs
[22:33] <@Octavian_X> 175
[22:33] <@Falcon02> arg
[22:34] * @Falcon02 the upgrades in Fukushima will likely cost 140g
[22:34] <+DX_Zoi> its only 20 per......what are we getting per turn now?
[22:34] <+CivGeneral> drat
[22:34] <@Octavian_X> 76
[22:34] <@Octavian_X> gpt
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[22:34] <+Feodor> Those will be important.
[22:34] <+CivGeneral> 12Welcome 12Back Cyc
[22:34] <+sike1> ty
[22:34] <+Feodor> Howdy
[22:34] <@Falcon02> just 5 over, good thing most of that will be next turn :-)
[22:34] * +CivGeneral is susspicous of the Babs
[22:35] <@Falcon02> go ahead and upgrade the Kyoto Knights
[22:35] * @Falcon02 loves how the Knight upgrade is so cheap
[22:35] <@Octavian_X> in kyoto, correct?
[22:35] <+Feodor> It's a little late to be suspicious.
[22:35] <+Feodor> I think they mean us harm.
[22:35] * @Falcon02 was just thinking that
[22:35] <+DX_Zoi> can we send them to plexenburg to upgrade?
[22:35] <+Feodor> How about Kagoshima.
[22:35] <@Falcon02> Fukushima will get a barracks next turn
[22:35] <@FortyJ> bbs... gonna change puters...
[22:35] <@Falcon02> per my suggestion to switch
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[22:36] <@Falcon02> Kago will upgrade all it's Knights
[22:36] <@Falcon02> or has already Oct, did you already?
[22:36] <+Feodor> Must have worn that Pc out already.
[22:36] <+DX_Zoi> plex still working on barracks
[22:36] <@Octavian_X> I haven;t done anythign western...
[22:37] <@Falcon02> plex will be done in 3 turns, and is farther, I had Fukushima switch to barracks which will be done in 1 turn
[22:37] <+Feodor> Excellent.
[22:37] <+CivGeneral> :)
[22:37] <@Falcon02> plex still working on barracks though, I think
[22:38] <@Falcon02> ok Oct
[22:38] <+DX_Zoi> 3 turns to go, falc
[22:38] <@Falcon02> upgrade Kago and Kyoto and Trader's knights
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[22:38] <+Feodor> Please.
[22:38] <@Chieftess> uhoh
[22:38] <@Octavian_X> ???
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[22:38] <@Octavian_X> not good
[22:38] <@Chieftess> Falcon!!!
[22:38] <@Chieftess> wait for Falcon
[22:38] <+Feodor> Assassins!
[22:38] <@FortyJ> what?
[22:38] <+DX_Zoi> now what do we do.........
[22:38] <+sike1> do his upgrades
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[22:39] <@Falcon02> 12° I am Root! 12°
[22:39] <@Chieftess> just before you came in
[22:39] <@Falcon02> ARG!!!!!!
[22:39] <+Feodor> He lives!
[22:39] * @Falcon02 seeks Gremlins with Shotgun!
[22:39] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:39] <+Feodor> That's the new weapon we are handing out on the upgrades.
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[22:39] <@Chieftess> argh
[22:39] <+sike1> cya Falc
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[22:39] <@Falcon02> 12° I am Root! 12°
[22:39] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:40] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:40] <@Chieftess> hehe
[22:40] <+Feodor> Wow.
[22:40] <@Falcon02> tricky little gremlins these are
[22:40] <+CivGeneral> ITs the Babs
[22:40] <+Feodor> "I am Root?"
[22:40] <@Chieftess> They must really want Falc gone...
[22:40] <@Falcon02> Geek Joke
[22:40] <@Chieftess> They are watching...
[22:40] <+CivGeneral> hehe
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[22:40] <+Feodor> Always.
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[22:40] <@Octavian_X> rofl
[22:40] <+sike1> as in square root?
[22:40] * +CivGeneral CG_is_Watching
[22:40] <+Feodor> He's going down for the third time.
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[22:40] <@Falcon02> 12° I am Root! 12°
[22:40] <+CivGeneral> 12Welcome 12Back
[22:40] <@Falcon02> grrrrr
[22:40] <+Feodor> Whew.
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[22:41] <@Octavian_X> omens...
[22:41] <+sike1> cya Falc
[22:41] <@Chieftess> heh... gremlins
[22:41] <@Chieftess> 10:12)
[22:41] * @Falcon02 wonders if sike's just preping for the 4th time round or if he's leaving
[22:41] <+DX_Zoi> back to the demon game
[22:41] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:41] <@Chieftess> ohhhh
[22:41] <@Chieftess> good one
[22:41] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:42] * @Falcon02 needs to create an Elite Anti-Gremlin Special Ops force
[22:42] <@Chieftess> GarretSidzaka - We usually DON'T have this much trouble in a demogame. 10:12)
[22:42] <@Falcon02> ANYWAY....
[22:42] <@Chieftess> except for the occasional major netsplit
[22:42] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:42] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
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[22:42] <+DX_Zoi> hehe...garrett, stil with us?
[22:42] <@Chieftess> I guess it scared him.
[22:42] <+sike1> you frightened him
[22:42] <@Chieftess> O_O
[22:42] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:43] <+DX_Zoi> lol....he doesnt wanna hear it CT
[22:43] <@Chieftess> o_O O_O O_o
[22:43] <@Falcon02> anyway DZ, by switching Fukushima to barracks we can upgrade them next turn
[22:43] <@Falcon02> with Plex it'll take longer
[22:43] <+DX_Zoi> thatll work, as long as they are in progress
[22:43] <@Chieftess> 2 1/2 hour preturn...
[22:43] <+DX_Zoi> thats fine.....I spoke b4 i looked, though Plex already had barracks
[22:44] <+CivGeneral> :eek:
[22:44] <@Octavian_X> What about those upgrades?
[22:44] <+DX_Zoi> *thought
[22:44] <@Falcon02> it doesn't need a rush, and it was on Longbow, which I don't think we need
[22:44] <+DX_Zoi> not really
[22:44] <@Falcon02> upgrade Kago, Kyoto, and Trader's Knights now
[22:44] <+Feodor> Guns?
[22:44] * @Falcon02 never uses Longbows
[22:44] * @Chieftess neither
[22:44] <@Falcon02> they're cheap but not versital
[22:44] <+DX_Zoi> nor does DXZ
[22:44] * +Feodor neither.
[22:44] <+sike1> can we proceed?
[22:45] * +CivGeneral same
[22:45] <@Falcon02> Oct, you upgrading?
[22:45] <@Octavian_X> where again?
[22:45] <@Falcon02> upgrade Kago, Kyoto, and Trader's Knights now
[22:45] <@Falcon02> Kagoshima, Kyoto and Trader's Inn
[22:46] <@Falcon02> and take that knight off that gold in the west
[22:46] <@Falcon02> take him to Kago
[22:46] * +Feodor Two ladies of the royal court appear and whisper in Feodor's ears.
[22:46] <+Feodor> brb
[22:46] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:46] <+sike1> k
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[22:46] <@Chieftess> ?
[22:46] <+Octavian_X> oh God...
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[22:46] <@Octavian_X> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
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[22:46] <@Falcon02> not again
[22:46] <@Chieftess> ack
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[22:46] <@Falcon02> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[22:47] <@Falcon02> GREMLINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[22:47] <@Chieftess> ?
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[22:47] <+Falcon02> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[22:47] <+CivGeneral> Darn Babs
[22:47] <+Falcon02> CT... caps kicker...
[22:47] <+DX_Zoi> everybody ok?
[22:47] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:47] <+CivGeneral> DZ: yes
[22:47] <@FortyJ> lol
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[22:47] <@Falcon02> 12° I am Root! 12°
[22:47] <+DX_Zoi> Hi Root
[22:47] <@FortyJ> gotta watch those auto-kickin' scripts of CTs...
[22:47] <+sike1> you're en route, falc
[22:47] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:48] * @Falcon02 wonders if anyone knows the Geek meaning here
[22:48] <@Octavian_X> I got nothing...
[22:48] <+sike1> no, but I wish you'd take root here and quit disappearing
[22:48] <+DX_Zoi> out of the Geek loop
[22:49] <+DX_Zoi> lol sike
[22:49] <+CivGeneral> 12Laugh 12Out 12Loud
[22:49] <@Octavian_X> Ok, did the knights...
[22:49] <@Octavian_X> What the hell am I supposed to do with this cavavel?
[22:50] * +CivGeneral wonders when in Demogame History has there been a long preturn
[22:50] <+sike1> look for islands?
[22:50] <+DX_Zoi> I would keep entering the black
[22:50] <@Chieftess> 3 hours one time.
[22:50] <+sike1> Falc's first pre-turn was pretty long
[22:50] <@Falcon02> http://catb.org/esr/jargon/html/entry/root.html
[22:50] <+CivGeneral> Whoh
[22:50] <+DX_Zoi> "Oct is their leader"
[22:50] <@Falcon02> there's your definition
[22:51] <@Falcon02> we've got a Caravel
[22:51] <@Falcon02> ?
[22:51] <+CivGeneral> Falcon: k
[22:51] <@Falcon02> hmm...
[22:51] <@Octavian_X> ok...
[22:51] <@FortyJ> I was just wandering him around in the dark spaces Oct
[22:51] <@Octavian_X> ok
[22:51] <@FortyJ> ever-expanding our world map...
[22:51] <@FortyJ> 12:4)
[22:52] * @Falcon02 searches for the little bugger
[22:52] <@FortyJ> not like we need him for anything else
[22:52] <@Octavian_X> too late now...
[22:52] <@Octavian_X> moving workers...
[22:52] <+CivGeneral> k
[22:52] <+DX_Zoi> NE of France
[22:52] <+DX_Zoi> location of caravel
[22:53] <@Octavian_X> lol...  We got a Persian worker from Rome...
[22:53] <@Falcon02> I've found it
[22:53] <@FortyJ> btw, current maps have been uploaded to the forums...
[22:53] <@Falcon02> lol, cool
[22:53] <@Octavian_X> off the coast of France
[22:53] <+CivGeneral> :)
[22:53] <@Chieftess> I guess they wanted to get away from the Persian-Rome War
[22:54] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:54] <@Octavian_X> lol
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[22:54] <+WildFire444> t/c?
[22:54] <+DX_Zoi> brace yourselves
[22:54] <@Chieftess> BTW, if the Zulus get down to 1 city, I think it's best to end the allience with the zulus
[22:54] <+CivGeneral> hehe
[22:54] <@Falcon02> I guess Send it South of that lone Island to search
[22:55] <+WildFire444> guess so
[22:55] <@Chieftess> Just so we don't get a rep hit (or ruin it even more)
[22:55] * @Falcon02 still thinks that's a messed up way to get a rep hit
[22:55] <@Falcon02> makes more senct for them to get it
[22:55] <+CivGeneral> same
[22:55] <+DX_Zoi> I agree....is the rep hit worse for ending it b4 20 turns?
[22:55] <@Chieftess> How? They'd be dead. 10:12)
[22:56] <@Octavian_X> lol
[22:56] <@Falcon02> true... but they did the wrong by dieing
[22:56] <@Falcon02> it's their fault not ours
[22:56] <@Octavian_X> Falc: send all the knights in the Fukushima area to the city, right?
[22:56] <@Falcon02> they broke the treaty
[22:56] <+DX_Zoi> they wont be around to take the blame
[22:56] <@Falcon02> yes
[22:56] <+DX_Zoi> so it falls on us?
[22:56] <@Chieftess> I guess we do too by not protecting them.
[22:56] <+sike1> that's weird logic
[22:57] * +Feodor strolls through the back of the conference room with a female courtier wearing a white scarf.
[22:57] <@Falcon02> that makes a little more sence...
[22:57] <+DX_Zoi> jump ship early and still get a rep hit though right?
[22:57] <+Feodor> I'm told I need my rest, so I'll wish all a good night.
[22:57] <@Octavian_X> Do we attack Chittagong's pike?
[22:57] <+DX_Zoi> nite feodor
[22:57] <+sike1> cya
[22:57] <@Chieftess> good night
[22:57] <@Octavian_X> night
[22:57] <@FortyJ> why worry about it... not like our rep is golden anyway.
[22:57] <@Falcon02> night Fedor
[22:57] <@Falcon02> Feodor
[22:57] <+DX_Zoi> I would like chittagong
[22:57] <+CivGeneral> Well, I G2G. Night :). 
[22:57] <@FortyJ> how many units do you have near Chittagong?
[22:58] <@Octavian_X> night, CG
[22:58] * +Feodor nods and leaves with his nurse and a bottle of wine.
[22:58] <@Octavian_X> 2 knights
[22:58] <@Falcon02> only 2 knights
[22:58] <+DX_Zoi> bye CG
[22:58] <@FortyJ> night CG and Feodor
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[22:58] <@Falcon02> I'm thinking wait for Cavs from Trader's
[22:58] <@FortyJ> I would wait for reinforcements.
[22:58] <+DX_Zoi> agreed
[22:58] <@FortyJ> chances are there are other troops behind the pike
[22:58] <@Octavian_X> Fortify there?
[22:59] <+DX_Zoi> I would go SE one square
[22:59] <@Falcon02> I agree
[22:59] <@Falcon02> the Mount is better
[22:59] <+DX_Zoi> and fortify next turn
[22:59] <@Falcon02> and we can still attack from there later
[22:59] <@Octavian_X> ok
[23:00] <@Octavian_X> Ganges knights?
[23:00] <+DX_Zoi> send west, right?
[23:00] <@Falcon02> take the Reg West
[23:00] <@Falcon02> and the Vets north of it
[23:01] <@Octavian_X> toward...?
[23:01] <+DX_Zoi> thru Lahore to Calcutta IMO
[23:01] <@Falcon02> to grandmastoria to be upgraded
[23:01] <@Octavian_X> Both of them?
[23:02] <@Falcon02> all 3 of them
[23:02] <@Falcon02> wait
[23:02] * @Falcon02 is wondering which to leave behind
[23:02] <@Falcon02> should we leave a vet or the reg?
[23:02] <@Falcon02> we need 1 to stay with the city
[23:02] <@Falcon02> the rest should go to Grandmastoria
[23:02] <+DX_Zoi> elite is in city
[23:03] <@Falcon02> I realize that
[23:03] <+DX_Zoi> that one should move on
[23:03] <@Falcon02> but should we take him to the front
[23:03] <@Falcon02> and leave the Reg to defend?
[23:03] <+DX_Zoi> reg to defend
[23:03] <+WildFire444> AFK btw
[23:03] <@Octavian_X> reg to Ganges, vet to grand?
[23:04] <@Falcon02> okay...
[23:04] <@Falcon02> reg to Ganges Vets and Elites to Grandmastoria.. then more instructions...
[23:04] <+DX_Zoi> what about elite? to grand?
[23:04] <+DX_Zoi> ok
[23:04] <@Chieftess> Well, I think this just may be the record for the longest preturn. 10:12)
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[23:04] <@Octavian_X> wait, that would leave just one reg in Ganges?
[23:05] <@Chieftess> wanna go for 7 more hours, and I'll be up at 6am. 10:12)
[23:05] <@Chieftess> with an hour to spare
[23:05] <+DX_Zoi> yes but Indians have been pushed out
[23:05] <@Octavian_X> good point
[23:05] <@Falcon02> pike in Octavinium to Strumandrang, Musket in Strumandrang to Huntingston, and Musket in Huntingston to Ganges (chain reaction style, don't leave a city undefended)
[23:05] <+DX_Zoi> as long as Russia and China stay cool
[23:06] <@Octavian_X> ok
[23:07] <@Falcon02> we need more muskets
[23:07] <+DX_Zoi> ya think?
[23:08] <@Octavian_X> then both Strum and hunt would be undefended
[23:08] * @Chieftess is going to go to sleep...
[23:08] <@Falcon02> note the Parenthatsis
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[23:08] <@Octavian_X> night, CT
[23:08] <@Octavian_X> ok
[23:08] <@Octavian_X> sorry
[23:08] <@Falcon02> night CT
[23:08] <+DX_Zoi> nitey nite CT
[23:09] <@Falcon02> so once the Pike gets to Strumandrang, send the Musket.... gonna take a while, but I don't wanna leave a city undefended now
[23:09] <@Octavian_X> I see
[23:09] <@Octavian_X> Waht about the musket outside serenity?
[23:10] <@Falcon02> meat up with our fortified Knight friends
[23:10] <@Falcon02> bad mistype
[23:10] <@Octavian_X> ok
[23:10] <@Falcon02> *meet
[23:11] <+DX_Zoi> haha....not a job for your deputy I hope, falc?
[23:11] <@Falcon02> ??
[23:11] <+DX_Zoi> Meating up.....oh never mind
[23:11] <@Falcon02> ohh
[23:12] <@Octavian_X> Shimonoseki musket?
[23:13] <@Falcon02> Tlax, NFN, Highlands, Strider's Haven, Civanatoria, Bremershaven, switch to Musket please
[23:13] <+DX_Zoi> on that note.....I'm outta here!  you two have fun now
[23:13] <+DX_Zoi> gnite all
[23:13] <@Octavian_X> waste 6 sheilds in muskets?
[23:13] <@Falcon02> send it to Kyoto
[23:13] <@Octavian_X> bye, DZ
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[23:14] <@Falcon02> any which are gonna waste, don't switch
[23:14] <@Falcon02> night DZ
[23:14] <@Octavian_X> ok
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[23:14] * @Falcon02 was just skiming through Cavalry Cities which would be helpful to go Musket
[23:14] <@Falcon02> how many Cavs we have now BTW?
[23:15] <@FortyJ> btw, what turn are we on?
[23:15] <@Octavian_X> preturn...
[23:15] <@FortyJ> 3hrs?
[23:15] <@Falcon02> yupper
[23:15] <@FortyJ> 12:4O
[23:15] <@Octavian_X> Falc: 23 knights, 25 cavs
[23:15] <@Falcon02> ok
[23:16] <@Falcon02> anyone got a spare 460g on 'em?
[23:16] <@Octavian_X> lol
[23:16] * @FortyJ checks his pockets...
[23:16] <@FortyJ> sorry chap... I seem to be tapped out at the moment.
[23:17] <@Falcon02> and I spent all my personal money on a ticket to a Youth Convention... drat
[23:17] * @Falcon02 wishes the DG had Credit
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[23:17] <@Octavian_X> Musket changes done...
[23:18] <@Falcon02> Now would be the time to take out a loan
[23:18] <@Falcon02> maybe Civ IV
[23:18] <+WF444> hows the game going?
[23:18] * @Falcon02 has been playing too much SC
[23:18] <@Falcon02> still preturn
[23:18] <@Falcon02> I think we're almost wrapped it up though
[23:19] <@Falcon02> Oct,  send the Shim Musket to Tokyo
[23:19] <@Falcon02> actually...
[23:19] <@Falcon02> yeah.. send the Shim musket to Tokyo
[23:19] <@Octavian_X> ok
[23:20] <@Falcon02> send a Toy Pike to Yoko
[23:20] <@Falcon02> hmm... that didn't sound right
[23:20] <@Octavian_X> lol
[23:20] * @Falcon02 thinks his army looks like green plastic now
[23:20] <@Octavian_X> What abuot this cav in Bremershaven?
[23:20] <@Falcon02> good thing we're not the Aztecs or Japs
[23:21] <@Octavian_X> or else we would've conquered ourselves by now...
[23:21] <@Falcon02> Fortified Knights
[23:21] <@Falcon02> 5Laugh 5Out 5Loud
[23:21] * @Falcon02 just commenting how the dark green is the Aztec and Jap colors
[23:22] <@Octavian_X> lol
[23:22] <@Octavian_X> What about this cav in Bremershaven?
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[23:22] <+WF444> right...........time for bed
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[23:22] <@Falcon02> send it to the Foritifed knights
[23:22] <@Octavian_X> ok
[23:22] <@Falcon02> near Chitta
[23:23] <@Octavian_X> Civanatoria knight?
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[23:23] <@Octavian_X> dammit...
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[23:23] <@Falcon02> 12° I am Root! 12°
[23:23] <@Octavian_X> Civanatoria knight?
[23:23] <@Falcon02> ohh great
[23:24] <@Falcon02> how much money we got left?
[23:24] <@Octavian_X> 15g]
[23:24] * @Falcon02 thinks Fionn's gonna kill him
[23:24] <@Octavian_X> lol
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[23:24] <+Fionn696_-Away> 15g!
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[23:25] <@Falcon02> 12° I am Root! 12°
[23:25] <@Octavian_X> lol
[23:25] <@Falcon02> send to Octavinium
[23:25] <@Falcon02> Gremlins
[23:25] <@Octavian_X> Fionn just heard...
[23:25] <+Fionn696_-Away> i didnt authorize any spending unless in extreme emergencies
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[23:25] <@Falcon02> 12° I am Root! 12°
[23:25] <@Falcon02> GREMLINS!
[23:25] <@Octavian_X> Holy crap...  END OF TURN!
[23:26] <+Fionn696_-Away> NO MORE SPENDING!
[23:26] <@Falcon02> but... but...
[23:26] <@Octavian_X> lol
[23:26] <@Falcon02> :-(
[23:26] <+Fionn696_-Away> NO!
[23:26] <@Falcon02> :'-(
[23:26] * @Octavian_X bangs his head on the wall...
[23:27] * @Falcon02 worries about the meaning
[23:27] <+Fionn696_-Away> were there any spot votes to spend the money?
[23:27] <@Falcon02> uhh.....
[23:27] * @Octavian_X hands Falcon02 a cold can of 5,4[0,4°Coke°5,4]
[23:27] <+Fionn696_-Away> any votes at all?
[23:27] <@Falcon02> uhh....
[23:27] <@Octavian_X> yeah...  uhh...
[23:27] <+Fionn696_-Away> so you spent it freely?
[23:27] <@Falcon02> we voted on the American deal
[23:28] <@Falcon02> I voiced worries about spending too much and was reminded of the gpt
[23:28] <@Falcon02> btw Oct, remember to post a post preturn save
[23:28] <@Octavian_X> saving now...
[23:28] <+Fionn696_-Away> were not republicans here we dont need a deficit
[23:29] <@Octavian_X> lol
[23:29] <@Falcon02> speak for your self Fionn... btw... tell that to FDR :-p
[23:29] <+Fionn696_-Away> dont knock fdr, he pulled the country out of the depression
[23:30] <@Falcon02> by spending lots of money!
[23:30] * @Falcon02 respects FDR
[23:30] * @Octavian_X also
[23:30] <+Fionn696_-Away> a depression a republican set in motion
[23:30] <@Falcon02> actually Hoover get's a bad rep, it wasn't his fault, it was the economy in general
[23:30] <+Fionn696_-Away> no more spending until we get over 800 
[23:30] <@Falcon02> but... the southern front...
[23:31] <+Fionn696_-Away> i dont care i got a budget to keep above the red
[23:31] <@Falcon02> that's 7 units for a total cost of 140
[23:31] <+Fionn696_-Away> upgrades only
[23:31] * @Falcon02 never rushed anything!
[23:31] <@Falcon02> :-p
[23:31] <@Falcon02> all upgrades
[23:32] <+Fionn696_-Away> geez
[23:32] * @Falcon02 was worried you were gonna take away my Fukushima upgrades
[23:32] <@Octavian_X> lol
[23:32] <+Fionn696_-Away> then we wont have to build any more units
[23:32] <+Fionn696_-Away> :)
[23:32] <@Octavian_X> file zipped and uploading...
[23:32] <@Falcon02> we need Muskets
[23:32] <+Fionn696_-Away> start building infrastructure :)
[23:32] <@Falcon02> I think we've got Cavs in hand for a while
[23:33] * @Falcon02 agrees on that
[23:33] <@Falcon02> but we can't forget our defense
[23:33] <+Fionn696_-Away> we are going to strech ourselves thin if we dont start razing cities
[23:33] <@Falcon02> I don't think we're gonna "take" much more
[23:33] <@Octavian_X> And now we wait...
[23:34] <@Falcon02> 2 bab cities, half of India, America, some Iro cities maybe
[23:35] * @Falcon02 just looked at the local of Babylon, and thinks he may not support Strider's wonder quest
[23:35] <+Fionn696_-Away> start building the MA?
[23:35] <@Falcon02> Oct?
[23:36] <@Octavian_X> uploaded
[23:36] <@Octavian_X> http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/Fanatika,_1000_AD_Preturn.zip
[23:36] <@Falcon02> where'd the discussion decide upon anyway?
[23:36] <+Fionn696_-Away> the preturn just finished?
[23:36] <@Falcon02> for the MA
[23:36] <@Falcon02> yup Fionn
[23:36] <+Fionn696_-Away> no where just curious
[23:36] <+Fionn696_-Away> thats 3 freeking hours?
[23:37] <@Octavian_X> I need a coke...
[23:37] <@Falcon02> yeah
[23:37] * @Falcon02 thinks of simular DG1 games
[23:37] <@Falcon02> this time it was mostly military stuff
[23:37] <@Falcon02> DG1 it took 3 hours to get through all the queues
[23:37] <@Octavian_X> attention to detail...
[23:38] <+Fionn696_-Away> id end the chat at this rate
[23:38] <@Falcon02> btw... Fionn... if it makes you feel any better, I tend to do very poorly in my own high level games due to my lack of Domestic skills...
[23:38] <@Octavian_X> 1000AD, 15g, 76gpt, ToG in 38
[23:38] * @Falcon02 needs to diversify his skills
[23:39] * @Octavian_X just takes too long to do anything....
[23:39] <+Fionn696_-Away> too bad using the powerbar is considered cheating
[23:39] <+Fionn696_-Away> we could give oursleves tons of gold hehe
[23:39] <@Falcon02> powerbar?
[23:39] <@Octavian_X> that...
[23:39] <@Octavian_X> trainer program
[23:39] <@Falcon02> ohh
[23:39] <+Fionn696_-Away> a tool i use to get city count but you can use it to cheat
[23:39] <@Falcon02> yeah...
[23:39] <@Octavian_X> shall I press enter?
[23:40] <+Fionn696_-Away> go for it
[23:40] <@Falcon02> go ahead
[23:40] * @Falcon02 thinks it's just the 3 of us
[23:40] <@Octavian_X> me too...
[23:40] <@Octavian_X> pressing enter (for the first time)
[23:40] <@Falcon02> btw I think the Gremlins were sent by the Babs
[23:41] <@Octavian_X> chinese manuver...
[23:41] <@Octavian_X> iro move toward Ghandi
[23:41] <@Octavian_X> iro take punjab!
[23:41] <+Fionn696_-Away> we need to have preturn chats at this rate
[23:42] <@Octavian_X> American knight kills bab longbow
[23:42] <@Octavian_X> other american knight kills bab spear
[23:42] <@Falcon02> good for 'em
[23:42] <@Octavian_X> American cav kill pike on ivory
[23:43] <@Octavian_X> I think some American knights are going for Izibia
[23:43] <@Octavian_X> thy're crossing anyway...
[23:43] <@Falcon02> btw if you see a GL... please tell us, even if it's their's
[23:43] <@Octavian_X> ok
[23:43] <@Octavian_X> hoplite disappears
[23:43] <@Falcon02> it's ours all ours I tell you, we shall never give up Izibia
[23:43] <@Octavian_X> ok
[23:43] <@Octavian_X> Xerxes wants to talk
[23:44] <@Octavian_X> should we listen?
[23:44] <@Falcon02> never hurts
[23:44] <@Falcon02> pick up the corded cup
[23:44] <@Octavian_X> offers peace treaty
[23:44] <@Falcon02> what will he give?
[23:44] <+Fionn696_-Away> get ToG
[23:44] <@Falcon02> must concider our MA's too
[23:44] <@Octavian_X> can't
[23:45] <@Octavian_X> He'll only give Free Artistry
[23:45] <+Fionn696_-Away> then he doesnt want a treaty bad enough
[23:45] <@Octavian_X> my thoughts exactly...
[23:46] <@Falcon02> yeah
[23:46] <@Octavian_X> wow, Persia admires our culture...
[23:46] <@Falcon02> though our only MA against them is the Zulus now
[23:46] <@Octavian_X> ok
[23:46] <@Falcon02> Fionn... you've done your job :-)
[23:46] <+Fionn696_-Away> thats plexus's job
[23:47] <+Fionn696_-Away> i just fight for more culture :)
[23:47] <@Octavian_X> Bab SoD retreats!
[23:47] <@Octavian_X> off for newcaslte
[23:47] <@Falcon02> hmm...
[23:47] <@Octavian_X> bab pike kills American Cav
[23:47] <@Falcon02> ouch
[23:48] <@Octavian_X> it was redlined
[23:48] <@Falcon02> that would do it
[23:48] <@Octavian_X> French cavs enter near Strider's Haven
[23:48] <@Octavian_X> Tokyo: Musket --> Musket
[23:49] <@Octavian_X> Nara: musket -.musket
[23:49] <@Octavian_X> Kuhkaff: Cav-->Cav
[23:49] <@Octavian_X> NFH: Musket --> Cav
[23:50] <@Octavian_X> Fuku(shima): Barracks --> Spear
[23:50] <@Octavian_X> Plus mass WLTKD's
[23:51] <@Falcon02> Switch Fuku to lib (had no Queue)
[23:51] * @Falcon02 needs to stop shortening that.. ~sigh~
[23:52] <@Octavian_X> just don't shorten it further
[23:52] <+eyrei> anything interesting happen?
[23:52] <@Falcon02> don't worry I did that originally
[23:52] <@Octavian_X> nope
[23:52] <+eyrei> good;)
[23:52] <@Falcon02> Persia wanted peace, but they didn't want it badly enough
[23:52] <@Octavian_X> We're on turn 1
[23:53] * @Falcon02 is concidering going to bed
[23:53] <@Octavian_X> me too...
[23:53] <+eyrei> what was persia willing to offer?
[23:53] <@Octavian_X> Free Artistry
[23:54] <@Octavian_X> that's all
[23:54] <+eyrei> does everyone we know have that already?
[23:54] <@FortyJ> that might not be a bad deal
[23:54] <@Octavian_X> Take it the the forums....
[23:54] <@FortyJ> since that war has pretty much run it's course
[23:54] <@FortyJ> lol
[23:54] <+eyrei> yeah, it doesn't really serve any purpose now
[23:55] <@Octavian_X> The MA's are still in effect, I though
[23:55] <+eyrei> how many turns have you played?
[23:55] <@Octavian_X> 1
[23:55] <@FortyJ> I think the only alliance still in effect is the Zulu
[23:55] <+eyrei> lol
[23:55] <@FortyJ> and that one can be cancelled, can it not?
[23:55] <@Octavian_X> We took 3.5 hours for the rpeturn...
[23:55] <+eyrei> well, i wouldn't want to stop after one turn to sign a peace treaty
[23:56] <+eyrei> but it might be a good idea
[23:56] * @Falcon02 checked earlier, it's just the Zulus
[23:56] <@Octavian_X> eyrei must be drunk if he wants to go on...
[23:56] <@Falcon02> and the MA has run 20 turns...
[23:56] <+eyrei> hehe...not drunk
[23:56] <@Falcon02> we could get rid of it
[23:56] <+eyrei> heeh that alliance has been in existence for a couple hundred years;)
[23:57] <@Octavian_X> sentinental value...
[23:57] <+eyrei> i don't think anyone would complain if we ended it to get a tech
[23:57] <+eyrei> even a relatively useless one
[23:57] <@Falcon02> it's just FA
[23:57] <@Octavian_X> lol
[23:57] * @Falcon02 would
[23:57] <@Falcon02> it's FA! for goodness sakes, we have little chance of getting it
[23:58] <@Falcon02> if we get a GL I'd reconcider, but without it, we have no hopes
[23:58] <+eyrei> true, but we might be able to trade it
[23:58] <@Octavian_X> Xerxes will have peace fof FA and 110g...
[23:59] <+eyrei> that 110 gold would be quite useful
[23:59] <+eyrei> that is 5 cavalry upgrades
[23:59] <@Falcon02> Eyrei, it seems all worth while civs have it
[23:59] <@Octavian_X> yup
[23:59] <@Falcon02> ohh... GOLD!
[23:59] <+eyrei> any not have it that have a tech we do not have?
[23:59] * @Octavian_X was waiting for that...
[00:00] <@Octavian_X> eyrei must be drunk, since I don't understand that last statement...
[00:00] <+eyrei> hehe...just read it carefully, it makes sense
[00:00] <@Octavian_X> ahhhhh....  ok
[00:01] <@Octavian_X> BTW, it's midnight here...
[00:01] <+eyrei> 1am here...i need to get to bed
[00:01] <@Falcon02> umm... No Eyrei
[00:01] <@Falcon02> Only one without it is England, and they've got 0 gold
[00:01] <+eyrei> i still think it might be worth it just for the gold
[00:01] <@Falcon02> and 0 techs
[00:02] * @Octavian_X double checks w/ current save
[00:02] <+eyrei> we haven't exactly been attacking the persians, or vice versa
[00:02] <@Falcon02> I'm kinda thinking of the gold part... maybe we can go next t/c w/o this long of a preturn
[00:02] <+eyrei> that war was just a tool to keep other civs off our back
[00:02] <+eyrei> now we have two others;)
[00:02] <@Octavian_X> lol
[00:03] <@Octavian_X> England can't even learn Free artistry yet
[00:03] <+eyrei> lol...at least we aren't in last place;)
[00:03] <@Falcon02> we're in FIRST!
[00:03] * @Falcon02 has a feeling we may win by Histo
[00:03] <@Octavian_X> Good point...  :D
[00:03] <@Octavian_X> ouch...
[00:04] <+eyrei> anyway, if you want to stop, you can, but we can sign that peace treaty without going to the forums
[00:04] <@Falcon02> ouch..?
[00:04] <@Octavian_X> It's a LOOOOONG time until the Histo victory...
[00:04] <@Falcon02> true...
[00:04] <+eyrei> someone will win spacerace long before 2050
[00:04] <@Falcon02> only 1050 years
[00:04] <@Octavian_X> that also...
[00:04] <@Falcon02> good point
[00:05] <@Octavian_X> Think how many 3 hour preturns that is...
[00:05] <+eyrei> hehe
[00:05] <@Falcon02> hmm... and space may be problem matic fo us
[00:05] <@Falcon02> prob 20
[00:05] <+eyrei> so, if you want me to give the order to sign that peace treaty, i will
[00:05] <@Falcon02> maybe 10
[00:05] <@Octavian_X> ok eyrei...
[00:06] <+eyrei> but only if you plan on playing a couple more turns
[00:06] <@Octavian_X> I can stay up anotehr hour
[00:06] <+eyrei> otherwise, we can take it to the forums
[00:06] * @Falcon02 needs to go to bed
[00:06] <@Falcon02> soon
[00:06] * @Falcon02 is debating an extra hour or not
[00:06] <@Octavian_X> How soon?
[00:07] <@Octavian_X> I really don't want to move w/o falc....
[00:07] <@Falcon02> well, if I stay up till 2, then wake up at 9 tommarrow, I'll see if I'm ready to go back to college this weekend
[00:07] <+eyrei> lol
[00:07] <@Falcon02> techically 9 today
[00:08] <@Octavian_X> lol
[00:08] <@Octavian_X> I normally stay up for another hour....
[00:08] <+eyrei> see if you can get some gpt out of persia as well...
[00:08] <@Octavian_X> sure
[00:08] <@Falcon02> Okay 1:30 - 1:45 ... now let's get moving
[00:09] <@Octavian_X> India will pay 6gpt
[00:09] <@Octavian_X> instead of 110g
[00:10] <@Octavian_X> I'll make up for the American alliance...
[00:10] <@Falcon02> India?!
[00:10] <@Falcon02> I don't want peace with India yet
[00:10] <@Octavian_X> sorry!
[00:10] <@Falcon02> anyway too many MA's will break there
[00:10] <@Octavian_X> I'm confusing wars
[00:10] <@Octavian_X> I meant persia
[00:10] <@Falcon02> ok
[00:10] * @Falcon02 got worried there
[00:11] <@Octavian_X> maybe it IS too late...
[00:11] <@Falcon02> MA's and objectives still left there
[00:11] <@Falcon02> ?
[00:11] <@Octavian_X> So we'll break the Zulu alliance and sign the deal
[00:12] <@Falcon02> I don't think we'll take a rep hit, the Zulu alliance is over 20 turns old
[00:12] <@Octavian_X> true
[00:12] <@Falcon02> so I say yeah
[00:12] <@Octavian_X> eyrei?
[00:12] <+eyrei> yes
[00:12] <+eyrei> just break the alliance first
[00:12] <@Octavian_X> ok
[00:13] <+eyrei> persia wouldn't offer any additional gpt?
[00:13] <@Octavian_X> nope
[00:13] <@Octavian_X> DAMMIT!
[00:14] <+eyrei> uh oh...
[00:14] <@Octavian_X> After we went to Shaka to break the alliance, Xerxer refused to accept 6gpt...
[00:14] <+eyrei> what will he offer now?
[00:14] <@Falcon02> arg!
[00:14] * @Falcon02 sees the gold being flushed down his gold plated toilet
[00:15] <@Octavian_X> 70 gold or 3gpt
[00:15] <@Falcon02> arg
[00:15] <@Octavian_X> <explative deleted>
[00:15] <+eyrei> does he still offer free artistry?
[00:15] <@Octavian_X> yes
[00:15] <+eyrei> take the 70 gold then
[00:16] <@Octavian_X> ok
[00:16] * @Falcon02 needs a talking Peregrine on his shoulder to go with his repedative pirate sounds... a Parrot's just not my style
[00:16] <@Octavian_X> lol
[00:16] <@Octavian_X> signing peace treaty...
[00:17] <+eyrei> ok
[00:17] <+eyrei> i am going to bed now;)
[00:17] <@Octavian_X> night, eyrei
[00:17] <+eyrei> goodnight, and good luck:)
[00:17] <@Octavian_X> we'll need it
[00:17] <@Falcon02> night Eyrei
[00:18] <@Falcon02> Oct, if it's just you and me, I think we should just go for Izibia, and upgrade in Fukushima, then call it a night
[00:18] <@Octavian_X> fine with me
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[00:20] *** Topic is 'The Demon Game'
[00:20] *** Set by Octavian_X on Tue Jan 21 22:42:31
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[00:20] <+Octavian> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[00:20] * @Falcon02 wonders if we can attack this turn or not
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[00:21] <@Octavian> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
[00:21] <@Octavian> damn ISP...
[00:21] <@Falcon02> not again...
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[00:21] <@Falcon02> I don't think we can get a GL from Izibia
[00:21] <@Falcon02> ohh great...
[00:21] <@Octavian> me neiter
[00:21] <@Falcon02> ahh... the X version wasn't alive3
[00:21] <@Falcon02> old shell
[00:21] <@Octavian> ???
[00:22] <@Falcon02> I got more warried when Octavian X quit
[00:22] <@Falcon02> worried
[00:22] <@Falcon02> I didn't realize there was two of you
[00:22] <@Octavian> ahhh...
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[00:22] <@Octavian_X> is that better?
[00:23] <@Falcon02> and I don't think we can attack Izibia this turn either
[00:23] <@Octavian_X> I think we can
[00:23] <@Falcon02> you can see the current save, I can't.. can we reach it?
[00:24] <@Octavian_X> I'll double check
[00:24] * @Octavian_X starts counting
[00:24] * @Falcon02 was thinking the Mount. would take up our turns
[00:24] <@Falcon02> yeah I guess your right
[00:24] <@Falcon02> attack via the Forest
[00:25] <@Falcon02> next to Nocs
[00:25] <@Octavian_X> crap, I was wrong...
[00:25] <@Falcon02> ??
[00:25] <@Octavian_X> forest cost 2 movement points, remember?
[00:25] <@Falcon02> arg
[00:26] <@Falcon02> this is more tricky than I thouhgt
[00:26] <@Falcon02> thought
[00:26] * @Falcon02 orders that that forest be burnt to the ground
[00:26] <@Octavian_X> I'd just send 'em all to Nocs to wait for attack
[00:26] * @Falcon02 appologizes to the tree hugers
[00:26] <@Octavian_X> lol
[00:26] <@Falcon02> okay
[00:27] <@Octavian_X> Fuku upgrades?
[00:27] <@Falcon02> yeah
[00:27] <@Falcon02> gonna barely cover 'em...
[00:28] <@Octavian_X> ohhhhhh, crap
[00:28] <@Falcon02> ?
[00:28] <@Octavian_X> The damn city isn't connected
[00:28] <@Octavian_X> ARG
[00:28] <@Falcon02> arg
[00:28] * @Falcon02 feels like strangling something
[00:29] <@Falcon02> go ahead and end the t/c
[00:29] <@Octavian_X> sure
[00:29] <@Octavian_X> saving...
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[00:31] <+Octavian> 3° Whoa! a nifty lookin' + thingie!! 3°
[00:31] <+Octavian> It's the Gremlins...
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[00:31] <@Falcon02> arg more gremlins
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[00:31] <@Octavian_X> 12° I got the Powwa stick! 12°
[00:32] * @Falcon02 thinks he's gonna start a new citizen groups, the Civil Gremlin Patrol
[00:32] <@Octavian_X> Cowboy Bebop's on Cartoon Network now...
[00:32] <@Falcon02> hmmm...